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etudiant 30th Mar 2021 15:09


Originally Posted by Evil Twin (Post 10991445)
Any Lilium investors reading, I have a bridge for sale that you may be interested in.....

Seems there is lots of money for this project: https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospa...143112.article

Valued at $3B+ under this deal's terms.

Less Hair 30th Mar 2021 15:12

Are they actually flying it?

etudiant 30th Mar 2021 15:54


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11019285)
Are they actually flying it?

Not to my knowledge, this is all 'on the come'. As with many others, they are selling a story,
The flood of money currently being pumped out by the authorities is fueling this and other speculations in aerospace.as well as elsewhere.

mickjoebill 30th Mar 2021 19:24

Foolish timing to make an announcement of futuristic product.

Mjb

mickjoebill 7th Jul 2021 23:46

5 years after starting this thread, Photographs and video of the full size interior of the 7 seater Lilium posted on Lilium's Facebook page.

https://fb.watch/v/1WHujFth4/
A striking interior, with fabulously large windows and an illuminated ceiling.

Is the canard a significant factor in pilot visibility?

If only it wasn't a mock-up

Mjb


rrekn 8th Jul 2021 11:35

Interesting to note that things that are missing in the interior:
  • Air Conditioning Vents
  • Reading Lights
  • Headset jacks
  • Escape Path Lighting
  • Fire Extinguishers
  • Emergency Exits
  • Seatbelts
Might be a little tricky to certify without these. They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ff9c2a63bd.jpg

MeddlMoe 8th Jul 2021 14:31


Originally Posted by rrekn (Post 11075313)

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.

This is Lilium in a nutshell

The performance claims are made up.
The time line for entry into service is made up.
The physics are made up

meleagertoo 8th Jul 2021 19:36

Just imagine! An 'illuminated cieling'!

Oh! The innovation!

I can't wait...

Ascend Charlie 8th Jul 2021 23:41

The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.

WingNut60 9th Jul 2021 01:37


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 11075623)
The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.

Like the crapper on an F-28 or DC-9

Ascend Charlie 9th Jul 2021 07:38


They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.
By the time they get up there, it will be time to descend anyway, so the pax won't have time to get hypoxic.

mickjoebill 27th Jul 2021 00:36

Lillium just announced on video in Facebook page, they will ​launch product with piloted flights in 2024.Former CFO of autonomous car tech Cruise is CFO.
Former CEO of Airbus will be chairman.
They plan to launch on NASDAQ, valued at $3B!
"Lilium’s aircraft will have 30x fewer components than a commercial airliner and is designed for ease of manufacturability and scalability. Lilium applies automotive-style design for manufacturing methods and is designing for fully automated high-quality production of its engines, actuators and batteries"

Has anyone seen a project where all facets of such a disruptive new business, are in place before the product is proven?

​​​​

Ascend Charlie 27th Jul 2021 02:19


Lilium’s aircraft will have 30x fewer components than a commercial airliner
By "30x fewer" do they mean 1/30th of the number? Pretty easy for a piddly 6-seater to have 1/30th the components of a B787. Take 180 seats, divide by 6, you get 30. Simples!

Hope they aren't relying on Taiwan for any computer chips, they might not be available when China decides to move in next year.

Hot and Hi 27th Jul 2021 10:24


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 11075623)
The electricity to power the illuminated ceiling could perhaps be used to power the rotors?

And look at all those screaming little turbine blades just outside the window, at ear level. Lovely.

Now I know why the crew dims the cabin light during takeoff and landing.

casper64 27th Jul 2021 11:06


Originally Posted by rrekn (Post 11075313)
Interesting to note that things that are missing in the interior:
  • Air Conditioning Vents
  • Reading Lights
  • Headset jacks
  • Escape Path Lighting
  • Fire Extinguishers
  • Emergency Exits
  • Seatbelts
Might be a little tricky to certify without these. They also claim to have a cruise altitude of 10,000 ft... in an unpressurised cabin.

This is what happens when you let the designers in without the engineers.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ff9c2a63bd.jpg

wait wait… do you mean it has to be certified??? 😂

cattletruck 27th Jul 2021 13:45


they will ​launch product with piloted flights in 2024
This is the pilot controls:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b0d2072ef0.png

etudiant 27th Jul 2021 20:42


Originally Posted by cattletruck (Post 11085699)

Seems to be a Germany specific issue, every dodgy promotion harvests there, thanks to demonstrably incompetent regulators. Look up Wirecard as the most recent example.

Woolf 27th Jul 2021 21:05

Free Flights!
 

Originally Posted by cattletruck (Post 11085699)

Free flights: Up Up Down Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Select Start :}

rrekn 27th Jul 2021 22:56


Originally Posted by Woolf (Post 11085860)
Free flights: Up Up Down Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Select Start :}

That is pure gold!

Less Hair 28th Jul 2021 05:36


Seems to be a Germany specific issue, every dodgy promotion harvests there, thanks to demonstrably incompetent regulators.
They had cargo lifter we had Airlander. But they have Volocopter as well.


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