You have hit the nail squarely on the head.

Parties who contributed to the report should be careful to limit any objections to matters that can substantiated by hard facts.

Report finished!
 

Good Morning.
The Norwegian NTSB has finished the report and it will be published Friday 6 July.
I expect there to be a press conference, and hopefully some in English.
Regards Cpt B

What the AIBN has announced is that there will be a press conference on Thursday the 5th of July at 1330 Norwegian time, in Bergen.
The final report will be made available on the AIBN website then, in English, and a condenced version in Norwegian.

This will be very interesting - what an incredibly difficult investigation. Hopefully they had enough evidence to get to the bottom of what caused this. That is in everyone's benefit.

I would like to ask a rather strange question, if you all do not mind!
In the Helicopter world in general and Offshore , in particular: Do You think the Norwegian AIBN have the resources, technical expertise , operational expertise and the independence from politics and manufacturers to cover this case!
I think they do, but we may have this sorted before the report.
Keeping in mind there is two sides at 180 degree opposite view. Unions in the north-sea hates it , Airbus loves it.
Regards
Cpt B

Worse Case Scenario.....the actual root cause of the failure(s) cannot be determined with specificity.....then what?

Do we not have approval from several Authorities for the 225 to continue in service?

How does that work....a known fatal problem and no known determination of cause...yet an Authority approves the aircraft to be flown?

SASless and Birmingham
Thanks
The main thing is we do not want to see another helicopter fall utterly helpless like that!
We have all lost great pilots, but most of them at least could fight for survival on the way down,,,,,.

Lets hope we have something concrete from the report.
Regards
Cpt B

love how sas can pretend to impartial and then take a cheeky slap at EC.

Catch up Old Man....it is AH now.

The question posed is straight forward and if you care to check it....the slam would be on the Authorities that would allow the aircraft to be put back in service AFTER no cause was determined. (One must read the post carefully as it dealt with a hypothetical situation.)

I believe the gentlemen doth protest too much.

BSU,

Accident Investigation from the State of Manufacture will be heavily involved and in this case the French BEA - Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses pour la Sécurité de l'Aviation Civile

Well that has already happened hasn't it? The A/C was cleared well before the final report but the AIBN and AAIB held back permission to resume flying for some time after it was granted by the Europeans/Americans etc.. The A/C remains approved with operational restrictions.

There have been a number of troubling dissenting statements; from the initial "suspension bar" theory, through to apparent comments that have been reported to have been added to the, as yet unpublished, final report. If we still don't have a cause and we still don't have a consensus we don't really have a long term solution do we? To move this forward requires the publication and review of the AIBN's final report which we are told will be with us next week.

From the outside looking in it certainly seems to have been a very difficult exercise logistically, scientifically, emotionally and politically.

The question still stands...if no definitive cause identified....thus allowing for a reliable method to prevent yet another catastrophic failure of the Rotor System as seen in the Norway crash....should the Authorities withdraw their approval of the aircraft to be flown?

It does not matter the Make, Model, Type, or Mark .... airplane or helicopter.....where should the line be drawn to ensure safety in these situations?

Should it be a mad game of Russian Roulette where you pays your money and takes your chances or should the Bar be set a bit higher than that?

The press conference and report are out tomorrow. Hopefully some definitive news ...

Report is published 1330 Norway time tomorrow. Hopefully it will be able to shed some much needed light on the cause.
link to AIBN

Report out tomorrow

https://www.aibn.no/About-us/News-ar...rt-5-July-2018

The final report has been published.

12 Safety recommendations: 9 to EASA, 1 to The Commission, 1 to ICAO and 1 to Airbus.

An Appendix I from Airbus Helicopters is included:
"... Airbus Helicopters agrees with the overall analysis and conclusions set out in the Report in relation to the root cause of the accident as well as the AIBN's proposed Safety Recommendations. The comments presented below focus on certain aspects of the Report which, in the interests of aviation safety, Airbus Helicopters consider important to be noted."

"The Accident Investigation Board Norway recommends that Airbus Helicopters revise the type design to improve the robustness, reliability and safety of the main gearbox in AS 332 L2 and EC 225 LP."