Sling Load EC130 vs 350/H125
I would like to have thoughts on pros and cons. Let me start the list, and if you have experience on both helicopters sling operation, i would love to hear what your thoughts is.
Pros ec130 - Sling load 1500kg - Less db than H125/350 - up to 7pax plus pilot (4+4config) - less operation cost than H125 Cons - less reference sling load due to mirrors, no floor window - way more expensive to buy I need to figure out how the ec130 is flying slingload vs the as350/Astar/H125, any comments would be appreciated. Thanks |
A few comments:
This article on Air Zermatt's use of the 130 might be of interest: H130 finds new application in aerial work I/C |
Hello Ian,
really appreciate your comments. These comments are exactly what i was looking for. I had already read the Air Zermatts article. The ec130 is fairly new to the market, so its hard to find any good comparison when it comes to sling load operation and handling. True, the extra power benefits the Fenestron. Its a huge difference in the operation cost of the EC130 and the EC130T2 says Airbus. Also once again, need perspective from people flew sling both models 130 vs 350. Thanks |
You are not going to lift 1500 kg with either a 130 or a b3! 1250 kg is a massive lift with low fuel and a very skilled long line guy (that doesn't stir the disk). Take the door off and looking down in the 130 is viable as the seat is close to the rail. Fennestron has big pedal movements and has a slow response...so it does add a level of challenge or sloppiness at the end of a 75 meter line while putting the bolts in the tower.
If talking a true longline machine...350 if choosing between the 2. |
chutedragger we routinely lift 1250 pus in our B3+. We have had lifts of 1400kg before. Although with 1400kg you must have the stars aligned :ok::ok:
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Does the B3 + have a higher permitted AUW and is the cargo swing allowed more than the onboard systems on ours B3 e's?
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We do can do 1250 kg too...but not really viable as you can't go far or high with no fuel. ...1500 kg would take big wind and low density altitude, and.....
I guess if you are moving water where you can get a run at, it or non fragile loads it's ok...but trying to vertical out of a 50 meter hole on the side of a mountain or build a tower/drill....better use 1250 kg as your target max. Not to mention.... 6172 lb max external 3000 lb aircraft - never seen one below 2970 150 lbs (15%!!) fuel !?! 200 lb pilot = 2800 lb (1272 kg) load!! Must be one of those pilotless drones!! |
Hehehe, this is sidetracking a little bit. We routinely also lift 1250- and sometimes 1400 cabins/excavators at 3-4000ft altitude when conditions allow and the stars are aligned. Although 900kg let you work fast and safe. Some helicopters do better than others across the 350, doesnt matter either 350B/350be. Not one helicopter is exactly the same thou its the same model."my heli is better than your heli"...
So drones or not ;-) I still look for valuable comparisons between the fairly new (or old) ec130 vs 350 |
Originally Posted by chutedragger
6172 lb max external
So, to echo your earlier point, an H130 with a 1,500 kg load wouldn't be going far or high. I/C |
Chutedragger's advice is spot on in my opinion, EMS22 has either gone to check the limitations section or his load cell
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Pussern, send me a private message and will be more than happy to discuss the H130T2 in terms of lifting and what it will do in the real world. Dave
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Hello!
I am a researcher developing a way to enable slung loads (or sling loads) to be carried significantly faster in safety. We work with a large university wind tunnel in Atlanta, Georgia USA. We believe that we have cracked the problem of dealing with arbitrary shapes. Would appreciate comments to gauge the value of such improvements in your operations. I will try messaging members to see if you will talk with my team directly as well. Thanks in advance. |
Hey Slinger1,
I'm interested to hear what you have discovered in your research. Where can I learn more? Thanks, Gavin |
Originally Posted by alta6
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Chutedragger's advice is spot on in my opinion, EMS22 has either gone to check the limitations section or his load cell
You wouldn't set a 1400kg drill head though.....it was an arrival. |
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