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Ian Corrigible 31st Dec 2015 16:55

Mil Mi-38 certified, 16 years after launch
 
Russian Helicopters receives type certification for Mi-38

When originally launched in 1999 in partnership with Eurocopter, the P&WC PW127 powered aircraft was planned to enter production in 2006. EC withdrew from the project in 2003, and the platform subsequently switched to Klimov TV7-117Vs.

A contender for most protracted civil rotorcraft development effort? Perhaps only edged out by the AW609, originally launched in November 1996 (as the Bell Boeing 609).

I/C

9Aplus 31st Dec 2015 18:01

Great NY present to global helicopter market....
Congrats to Russian Helicopters :ok:

Vertical Freedom 1st Jan 2016 08:49

32 years for the v22 & still not certified :ugh:

jymil 1st Jan 2016 13:33

Price tag is approx 13mio USD, max 30 pax/6000kg internal load. With 30 pax, you probably need a flight attendant on board (for CAT). What kind of operations would fit for this thing ?

Fareastdriver 1st Jan 2016 13:47

It's not svelte enough; it needs a retractable undercarriage.

RVDT 1st Jan 2016 14:54


32 years for the v22 & still not certified
No need to TC Military aircraft so good luck with that ever happening.


Russian Helicopters receives type certification for Mi-38
That would be a Russian TC? Anybody know how far Bi-Lateral agreements extend?

whoknows idont 1st Jan 2016 15:02

Funny how a 30 pax helicopter is categorised as a medium... Doesn't get much larger than that.

9Aplus 1st Jan 2016 20:44

@RVDT
It is The Interstate Aviation Committee certification, IAC
or
Межгосударственный авиационный комитет, МАК

Because of political reasons do not expect any miracles under FAA or EASA,
but can be well accepted within the rest of the world :E

jymil 2nd Jan 2016 07:46

It is certified under russian AP-29 standard, which is similar to FAR 29 and it's european copy. So in principle it could get type certified for the US and Europe as well, as already done with the KA-32.

Not sure though if civilian helicopters fall under the sanction of dual use goods.

ARRAKIS 2nd Jan 2016 16:39

9Aplus,
any idea about the fuel burn of the bird?

Arrakis

9Aplus 2nd Jan 2016 21:59

Last time we discussed that matter at MAKS 2011 have been told that must
be 800-900 kg/h level.... new engines are bit more efficient.
Can ask what are the final figures...

Vertical Freedom 3rd Jan 2016 03:57

Hey RVDT

OK Your right on about the civil certification on the v22 :ok: but the XV15-BA609-AW609 first launched in 1971......45 years on &, &, & still struggling & not YET certified :eek: impressive??? NOT :ugh: something tells me that; A. it's a lemon & B. it's cash cow for the (lucky) Boys Club :yuk:

May the Vertical Force (Thrust) be with You ;)

cpt 3rd Jan 2016 05:47

Good luck Mi 38, I'm confident that you'll be worthy of your older brothers !

ARRAKIS 3rd Jan 2016 15:59

9Aplus,
my pure guess is around 880-900 kg/h, but would like to confirm.
Puting politics aside, I think it will be a good machine. At least as good as the older brother.

Arrakis


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