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311kph 17th Jul 2015 19:38

Aircrane firefighting in Greece - close call
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-5RgptnFjU
Today, july 17.2015, huge forest fire in southern Greece.
Couple of Skycranes, CL215s, Pumas,...
There is one much better video, but cant open it here...


This one is just to get perspective...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v37wCR6V8sc

Gordy 17th Jul 2015 20:48

Took me a minute to get what all the fuss is about. LTE spin I suspect due to heavy and and running out of left pedal as he approached a hover.

Here is one from a few years ago:


whoofi 18th Jul 2015 20:26

WTF......

What is wrong with the helicopter...........why does it happen????

I think the pilots must use double underwear....

Helilog56 19th Jul 2015 00:10

It very well could have been a hydraulic hardcover on the t/r servo which I have had in the past on these.

Peter3127 19th Jul 2015 03:56

Seems to be spinning the wrong way for LTE in the Greek video?

Gordy 19th Jul 2015 05:42

He is spinning clockwise...

heli kiwi 19th Jul 2015 07:19

Does it go the other way in the southern hemisphere?

212man 19th Jul 2015 08:13

It's a little unclear but I think Peter is right - the first few seconds show the aircraft rotating anti-clockwise, then clockwise in the recovery and fly away.

whoofi 19th Jul 2015 11:23

The scary part is that we can see two youtube videos of this event with the Skycrane.... and i can not help wonder.....could this be a "natural" event on this helicopter?????

Fear......

OvertHawk 19th Jul 2015 13:06

It seems to be an event that may occur, particularly if you consider that the aircraft are being manoeuvred at high weights in challenging conditions and (usually) high temperatures.

It also seems that the crews are aware of it and briefed on the recovery - Both the examples I've seen on video have shown what seems to be a well drilled and successful recovery - I'm not aware of an airframe having been lost to such an event.

OvertHawk 19th Jul 2015 13:12

As for direction of rotation - I see what Peter and 212 mean - in the initial couple of seconds it's difficult to be sure, but I think that the impression of anticlockwise rotation is a by product of the poor visibility, nose down attitude and perspective. I think that rotation is clockwise throughout (but stand to be corrected).

Peter3127 19th Jul 2015 14:00

@Gordy Yeah, took a few more looks and you are correct. Funny though because I watched it about 3 times, even made me confirm the MR direction, could have sworn (from the first part of the video) he was turning left. Your video was a classic however. :ok:

Gordy 19th Jul 2015 17:27

Peter3127...

Check out this illusion.......your brain can be tricked:

Spinning Dancer Illusion

SilsoeSid 19th Jul 2015 19:54

Direction of rotation!
Too busy noticing how cold that room must have been :E

http://www.123opticalillusions.com/p...ing_Dancer.gif

Gordy 20th Jul 2015 03:59

While I have peoples attention, maybe I could post an unrelated but important PSA......

Drones Delay Emergency Crews Battling Wildfires in Southern California Video - ABC News

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...pspry6uzdr.jpg

Peter3127 20th Jul 2015 12:50

I can make it spin either way at will. Makes me .... Oh, never mind ...:cool:

GOT 20th Jul 2015 18:08

It looks like he's flying slow in downwind...


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