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Reely340 12th Oct 2014 07:32

accident 2014-10-11: R22 emergency landing went bad
 
Hubschrauberüberschlag bei Notlandung - tirol.ORF.at
Started 17:15 lct from Wiedergeltingen (Germany) for a round trip.
"Due to massive power loss" an attempted emergency landing
at 18:41 near the "Schönkahlers" mountain resulted in breaking off
the tail boom, whereupon it started to tumble downhill comming to
rest with its skids skywards. 63 year old PIC uninjured, 42 year old
pax was airlifted by helicopter to Kempten hospital."

I wonder what might have caused the "massive power loss" in flight...

vaibronco 12th Oct 2014 08:31

Sticky valve?
 
:rolleyes:

Vertical Freedom 12th Oct 2014 11:24

Miracles do Happen :{ God speed recovery to the Injured Soul :)

skadi 12th Oct 2014 16:04


I wonder what might have caused the "massive power loss" in flight...
1,5 h flight with two POB Fuel QTY?

skadi

MightyGem 12th Oct 2014 18:56

Can an R22 have a "massive" power loss? :E

Reely340 12th Oct 2014 20:21


1,5 h flight with two POB Fuel QTY?
My thoughts were going into that direction, too.
I don't know R22 eundurance, 300C can do three hours ..

Unless the PAX was playing with some switches and levers, that is.

Gordy 12th Oct 2014 20:32

The town is at 2,000' elevation and this looks to above the town....

Are we sure there was a power loss or is this speculation.

Elevation anyone?

grumpytroll 13th Oct 2014 03:40

Carb Ice
 
What was the temp and possible moisture in the atmosphere

grumpytroll 13th Oct 2014 03:42

this in not the whole message but you get the idea
 
CARBURETOR ICE
Avoidable accidents have been attributed to engine stoppage due to carburetor ice.
When used properly, the carburetor heat and carb heat assist systems on the R22
and R44 will prevent carburetor ice.
Pressure drops and fuel evaporation inside the carburetor cause significant cooling.
Therefore, carburetor ice can occur at OATs as high as 30°C (86°F). Even in
generally dry air, local conditions such as a nearby body of water can be conducive
to carburetor ice. When in doubt, assume conditions are conducive to carburetor ice
and apply carb heat as required.

Reely340 13th Oct 2014 06:57


Are we sure there was a power loss or is this speculation.
Quoted from news article. Wheter that itself was a
verbatim quote of a pilot's statemnt is unkonwm (to me).


Elevation anyone?
Takoff was at Wiedergeltingen 1998 ft MSL,
Top of grassy "Schönkahler" hill is 5538 ft MSL
allegedly that's where the emergency decent was attempted
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%B6nkahler


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