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Blades26 30th Aug 2014 14:52

Leicester training org and very well respected FI (E) part company
 
Heard a rumour that a well known training organisation in Leicester and a very well respected FI (E) from the Boston area have parted company. Can anyone confirm this? If so, its got to be a huge loss for the organisation in question..

Foureyedflyer 1st Sep 2014 17:30

Heard a similar rumour, that he's just flat out refused to work for them. Don't know anymore than that. Anyone?

Huge loss for them, I should think he's already busy somewhere else though.

MannyUK 5th Sep 2014 18:48

slightly high jacking this old(ish) thread I also hear that this company is failing to refund a student whom had not started his FI training but they have no-one to train him anymore.

Efirmovich 6th Sep 2014 09:22

Super bloke, did some mountain flying with him some years ago, a wealth of knowledge !


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Pittsextra 6th Sep 2014 09:32

What an odd thing to do
 
There must be more to this if it has any truth to it.... I mean why would you decide you didn't want to do work for an organisation that spits out so much work??? Has he retired!!???

Blades26 9th Sep 2014 18:03

He hasn't retired, that's for sure. He's now working elsewhere. Don't know the circumstances surrounding his departure so I wont speculate. Said organisation doesn't seem to enjoy the most salubrious of reputations though. However, all evidence is anecdotal at present so remaining objective..

Hughes500 9th Sep 2014 20:09

I hear he is working with Leon at High Wycombe, a sensible honest organisation

cladosporangium 11th Sep 2014 12:18

I'm sure he will be much better-off with a sensible, honest organisation. :D

wickednorthernwitch 11th Sep 2014 13:16

No surprise there
 
If you have ever had any dealings with this company then it should not come as any surprise as they would argue over 2 minutes flying time. I know someone that has recently retired from the company, he retired before his 60th birthday because he refused to fly all daylight hours regardless of weather/serviceability (the "customer" sent out an email and this was backed up by the "company" and the pilots were there were told to do as instructed or they would be replaced. I still have said emails). Fortunately the person I know was not under any personal financial pressure so would only fly if circumstance were right. I wanted to send the emails to the press but I was asked not to but if there were to be a subsequent board of inquiry they would make interesting reading.


During his time with the company there were many arguments over what the company would pay for and very cleverly they never put the "agreement" in writing. Over the course of his time with the company he was not paid multiple thousands of pounds for hours flown. The company billed the customer for ALL hours flown and they expected the pilot to fly 7 hours but only paid them for 5 hours gaining the company up to £100 per day per pilot.


I could go on and on and I frequently do!


I can also obtain documentary evidence to back up what I have said if the need ever arises that I am required to prove my case and I would be happy to do so.


Is it a surprise to me that the company is rumoured to be arguing over money? NO!!! It is a surprise though that the rumour has been made public as the company had a policy that the pilots were not allowed to discuss their pay even with each other.

flight beyond sight 11th Sep 2014 16:28

I am quite touched by your comments but the person in question is not working here at Wycombe.

CRAZYBROADSWORD 11th Sep 2014 17:33

Well could someone name this company as I am meant to be on an instructor seminar in Leicester in a couple of weeks

Blades26 11th Sep 2014 19:30

Wickednorthernwitch, I wasn't aware of any 'rumour made public' until now!
A very interesting read, however. Crazybroadsword, there is only one helicopter ATO in Leicester.
And agreed, Leon and co down at High Wycombe - first class, very swept up organisation..

whodictus 12th Sep 2014 10:32

Out of line
 
WNW
Think you are on thin ice with slander the things you say are old hat we all agreed at the time the wages, which at least we were paid. After having agreed a contract certain people then felt they were hard done too. The person you were talking about was due a Base/Line check that would only be usable for three to four weeks this would not make good business sense to any one. Even those who have never run a company!

Pittsextra 12th Sep 2014 12:07

whodictus so why did this guy leave, given he was making (by any normal metric) a lot of money working there.

whodictus 12th Sep 2014 12:25

The thing that bold young pilots don't consider, age and commercial license

Pittsextra 12th Sep 2014 12:39

So he feels too old and is now retired?

Blades26 12th Sep 2014 13:16

Whodictus, 'Commercial license' unlikely to be a factor for two reasons.
1. Said FI (E) turned 60 several years ago, so obviously hasn't been doing CAT since
2. Age; fair point but doesn't explain why he's now busy, working elsewhere...

HeliHenri 12th Sep 2014 13:30

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Blade26,

As you know where he is working now, why don't you ask him directly ?

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Blades26 12th Sep 2014 13:39

HH, haven't a clue where he is working now. Just heard from a reliable source that he's gone to another ATO. If I did know, I wouldn't have asked the question on here..

HeliHenri 12th Sep 2014 14:15

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Sorry about that B26, I thought that you were asking why, not where.

As you wrote "a well known training organisation" and "a very well respected FI (E)" knowing the names of the organisation and the FI, I thought that your "elsewere..." was one more secret message ! ;)

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