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Friendly Black Dog 3rd Aug 2013 15:40

S92 FMS
 
Folks, heading to the US in the next few weeks for an FSI S92 conversion. I believe there is an FMS trainer (software) in circulation and I can use all the help I can get. Anybody have something they'd be willing to share?
Cheers
FBD

WOMBAT45 3rd Aug 2013 16:00

I would also be very interested if there is such a thing around.

albatross 3rd Aug 2013 23:08

Universal UNS-1 FMS Fundamentals | FlightSafety International Inc.

You might check with FSI, as FMS training is included in the course, if you can have free access to this before you go.

FSI training is a great course with super instructors. I wouldn't bother bringing the golf clubs however as you will be busy! I was busy all week and spent weekends studying as I am not the brightest bulb on the xmas tree.

Google Universal FMS and you should get some results too.

Universal Avionics -- Product Information -- FMS Trainer

I found that after a quick Google search.

I assume you are going to West Pam Beach. Have fun - you're going to love that aircraft.

Hope this helps.

Sir Korsky 3rd Aug 2013 23:33

Here is a great place to become familiar with the UNS1. I wouldn't worry too much. Once you start pushing the buttons it will all fall into place.

APPROACH SEGMENTS

SASless 4th Aug 2013 01:37

Upon seeing my First FMS.....I understood what a Dog watching Television feels like.

RVDT 4th Aug 2013 04:12

Have never understood why they put these things in helicopters.

Is it to give the 2nd pilot something to do?

albatross 4th Aug 2013 04:50

A little confusing at first but a great help later on.


First little while:

El Capitan: "What's it doing????"
Faithful sidekick: "Haven't got a clue and God only knows what it wll do next!!"
Great distraction as both crew go "heads down", stare at the FMS and poke hopefully at buttons as the helicopter wanders off into the unknown.
Great fun!

jemax 4th Aug 2013 11:22

Children of the Magenta
 
SAS, this explains why the FMS is so essential :)

From 07:00 onwards, but it's all diamond stuff


albatross 4th Aug 2013 11:52

That is a very interesting and well presented video.:ok:

SASless 4th Aug 2013 14:52

What I teached was "THINK!" and "FLY The Aircraft!"......what the video is saying is the long version of that.

You can fly the machine using your hands and feet.....or buttons and knobs....or by use of the the FMS......but at least ONE PILOT has to be at the Controls making the aircraft do what it is supposed to do....no matter what form the Controls take.



Loved the Video! Excellent Instructor.




At one place I instructed.....I talked of the "Dipped Shoulder Syndrome".

It was a result of slavish adherence to Check Lists by former Military Pilots and others whose employers who demanded use of Check Lists as part of every action by Crews.

It was noticeable when observed.....Orange or Red Light illuminates on the Flight Deck....and simultaneously (or nearly so) one Pilot's shoulder dips as an Emergency Check List is reached for in anticipation of it being used.

The first reaction should be anything but that.....in my view. For those so afflicted....I counseled "Reset the Master Caution Light....then punch the Clock!"

My reasoning......re-setting the Master Caution was useful and necessary....and punching the Clock allowed for an immediate action that was neither wrong nor could do any harm.....and thus those that needed to respond immediately could do so but not mess up by hurrying.

As the Video talked about.....selecting the "Best" course of action is critical. A few seconds thought can oft times prevent very bad things from happening. Rarely does events demand an immediate, muscle memory instinctive reaction.

As the Instructor pointed out....we create our own Monsters....in his case "Children of the Magenta".....in my case....."Dipped Shoulder Syndrome".

Redhawk 83 6th Aug 2013 16:05

S92 FMS
 
FSI does teach some basics of the FMS but I suggest buying the software to practice or spend extra time in the static GFS (touch screen cockpit simulator). If you are buying a new S92 you might be able to get the Universal software for free. A single copy (6 month expiry) of the software from Universal (not the FSI one ) is a bit pricey!

llamaman 6th Aug 2013 19:43

SASless,


It was a result of slavish adherence to Check Lists by former Military Pilots and others whose employers who demanded use of Check Lists as part of every action by Crews.
I assume your comment isn't aimed at UK military pilots? The current ethos (and has been for some time) applied to emergency handling is very much to fly the aircraft as a first priority, diagnose the fault and only then refer to the FRCs. Immediate actions are done from memory thus negating the urge to reach for the cards and freeing capacity to achieve a safe flight configuration.

Shawn Coyle 7th Aug 2013 05:33

SASless:
Pretty hard to punch a digital clock these days...
First you have to find it (may be buried on page 5 of the FMS)

[email protected] 10th Aug 2013 07:09

llamaman - the first AAC guys to train on the Apache in the US came back full of horror stories about the methods of instruction; not only were checklists slavishly followed but this was done with no thought applied at all.

For example, with a practice double engine failure, the UK student could smartly enter auto, turn towards the wind and select a landing area whilst putting out a distress call but would not pass the exercise because he hadn't said the exact checklist words - even saying 'lowering the lever' was deemed incorrect, the checklist said 'adjusting the power lever' so that is what had to be uttered, regardless of what was actually done.

Sadly there were also stories of the instructors who could say the words in a demo but couldn't actually perform the actions correctly.

albatross 10th Aug 2013 08:05

Digital clock
 
Shawn:
all the S-92s I have flown had digital clock on the instrument panel.
Standard fit I assumed.

Jonasraf 10th Aug 2013 09:52

Its also perfect to help pass the hours...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...7&l=1513156000

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