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shetlander 14th Nov 2014 09:01

I am pretty sure that registraion along with I-RAIQ are temporary registrations issued to newly produced AW aircraft.

Both registrations feature on numerous airframes.

jimf671 14th Nov 2014 12:40

Presumably, this tip is from the post by Vermeer on scramble.nl, dated 27th October 2014. (I-EASS is definitely an AW temporary that has appeared on other 139s.)

Vermeer also lists three AW189 in his spotting report which, unfortunately, is an indicator for him knowing the difference and I-EASS indeed being a 139.

So, if we therefore assume that it is a correct type identification, what possible reasons could there be for new production of such a 139 other than Plan B2 (B1 = S-92) being in operation to accommodate AW189 lateness on the MAIN contract for the UK SAR Helicopter Service?

- Incorrect identification of the colour scheme and branding by Vermeer
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Please fill in the blanks.

[email protected] 14th Nov 2014 17:22

That SAR Chap - thank you:ok:

TwoStep 17th Nov 2014 15:19

Bristow had previously said in its financial briefings on SAR-H that if the AW189 was not ready, AW139s could stand in temporarily.

[email protected] 17th Nov 2014 16:03

Where are they going to magic a bunch of UKSAR spec 139s from though?

detgnome 17th Nov 2014 20:59

see post 1213 ^^^^^^!

[email protected] 17th Nov 2014 21:29

Well they are going to need up to 8 to cover Inverness, Manston, St Athan and Prestwick next year - any spotters seen that many??

shetlander 17th Nov 2014 22:24

I can't say that I have seen any 139's... But I have seen another Coastguard 189 at Norwich :ok:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7544/...48da28_c_d.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5606/...0c5399_c_d.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7582/...40c332_c_d.jpg

jimf671 17th Nov 2014 22:58

Nice work MATE! :ok:

I note with considerable interest the detailed working items fitted on this aircraft and not on PT5 (I-PTFF). Also that it carries a registration that is a known AW temporary pre-delivery reg. The first aircraft production is known to be an Italian build.





Anyone seen certification?

Older and Wiser 18th Nov 2014 07:03

So the Italians have built one SAR Cab, it is now down to AW's UK plant to build the rest!

mmitch 18th Nov 2014 09:17

Has it been decided what the colour scheme will be for the civil SAR? Will it just be the Coastguard one? It is pretty important that the public can recognise it quickly when they might otherwise expect a yellow one!
mmitch.

Sevarg 18th Nov 2014 10:37

O & W,
I think that it's the W in the AW that might be the problem. I hope they have changed there ways from the days when the MoD fed them royaly. Not only in producing the goods but also the spares backup. Fingers crossed on that one.
MMitch,
I don't think the colour will matter much if you wanting help. It didn't seem to be a problem at Lee or Portland. I guess in Scotland there was plenty of news items when the 'new' coastguard service started many years ago.
Also there have been a number of programs on TV where the colours of all the services have been well aired. I would say not a problem.

britinusa 18th Nov 2014 11:46

A Question....Considering that the new helicopters are going to be carrying out rescues in the mountains, seas, disasters overland. Is the new service still going to be known as Coastguard Rescue Helicopters or something else?

I might have missed this answer way back in this thread..

Vie sans frontieres 18th Nov 2014 14:53

The photos at the top of this page offer a bit of a clue.

John Eacott 18th Nov 2014 19:21


Originally Posted by mmitch (Post 8747297)
Has it been decided what the colour scheme will be for the civil SAR? Will it just be the Coastguard one? It is pretty important that the public can recognise it quickly when they might otherwise expect a yellow one!
mmitch.

Or grey and red.

Even we Antipodeans know that UK SAR has had colours other than yellow for many, many decades :hmm:

[email protected] 19th Nov 2014 06:05

Just nowhere near as many aircraft as the yellow ones;);)

John Eacott 19th Nov 2014 07:32

Careful, crab@. We had lots more than you, once upon a time....

http://www.eacott.com.au/gallery/d/1...d+Fly+Navy.jpg

3D CAM 19th Nov 2014 10:00

Nice one John.:D:D
3D

snaggletooth 19th Nov 2014 12:33

'FLYNAV'

I don'geddit... :rolleyes:

britinusa 19th Nov 2014 12:51

I wasn't asking about colour, and the Coastguard is an organisation which does what it says on the box. Guards the coast, are they going to still hold the title of coastguard helicopters even though less than half of all rescues will be over sea!


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