2 x Helicopters crash in Berlin
 

BBC reporting 2 helicopters down near the Olympic Stadium in Berlin

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BBC: Emergency services are attending a helicopter crash near Berlin's Olympic Stadium, in which several people are said to have been injured or killed.
According to an unconfirmed report, two helicopters crashed in mid-air during a police exercise, killing one of the pilots and leaving three people hurt.
Footage showed one black helicopter on its side in the snow.
Some 400 federal police officers were conducting a football violence training exercise when the crash happened.

One Puma and one EC155 collided during excercise in front of the Olympic stadium in Berlin. One pilot reported dead, several injured. It was an excercise with three helicopters and about 300 policeofficers ( football hooligan scenario ), snowfall, during landing two helicopters collided with the mainrotors.

Weather in that area 2200m VIS SN 700ft

Polizei-Helikopter: Polizei-Hubschrauber abgestürzt, Mann stirbt - B.Z. Berlin

skadi

http://www.bz-berlin.de/multimedia/a...1_41557728.jpg

http://www.bz-berlin.de/multimedia/a...r_41557528.jpg

Sounds like an whiteout happened while the Puma tried to land behind the EC155
Why they are trying this in such bad weather conditions?

German newspaper report that the Super Puma was the first to land without any problems. A second helicopter landed in a distance of @ 30 m behind the Super Puma taking it's time to avoid whiteout.
A third helicopter is suspected to have rushed it and crashed into the first one.:(:(:(

they flew right by me two and a half hours ago which pretty much matches the reported time for the incident.

one 155 followed by two super pumas (all feds), flying close in line formation in what looked like 300ft and 30-40kts. visibility just a little worse than what is depicted above.

i wondered about their heading because such formations usually directly approach or depart the mil part of EDDT. i wish i hadnt found out... :(

Geez! My best wishes to them all....


Landing on snow covered surfaces can be tricky sometimes

video of the approach Video

Shocking weather!

Not all of them will be in a position to receive your good wishes.

Poor vis - again!!

Not sure if it's the same video, I couldn't get the other one to open:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea8_1363870107

German police helicopters collide
 

My concolences to the family of the deceased. I hope that all involved get back on their feet soon. This is a disaster.

My god, those blokes walking away only just avoided being cut in half by flying debris. How close? A miracle that casualties were so low. Condolences to family.

total white out!:eek:

The young lady ( with the bag ) at the beginning of the last video right hand side was severely hurt on one of her legs. In one of the galleries was a pic of here with an unusual position of her lower leg...

Here she is given first aid:

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert...iew=.bild.jpeg

skadi

White out (as "brown out" or "green out") is nothing to play around with.

I know some of these helicopter pilots flying for the police-some of them are still young (and lowtimers), with not to much white out experience...mainly because the training hours are reduced year after year.....(not saying that the pilot in this case was a low timer.....nor that he wasn´t trained properly...)

White out AND formation landing.....a bad combination....how often do they get to train this?

I couldn't get the other videos to work but
saw this on youtube.

Not that you can see much because of the whiteout.

I saw them this morning while leaving the hotel, just over Alexander platz, heading to the stadium, sorry for the pilot, my condolences.