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John Eacott 7th Jun 2018 00:10


Originally Posted by Thomas coupling (Post 10165433)
Many years ago in the military, I did a tour on the SeaKing simulator for my sins (between jobs). I was teaching a weeks worth of sorties for the FGN (German seaking pilots).
I distinclty recall watching them man up prior to start and the Captain hooked his dog tags over the E3C compass binnacle protruding from the centre screen above their heads.


Hopefully non-magnetic dogtags?


Nerd question of the month: what's the difference between the E3B and E3C compass ;)

SASless 7th Jun 2018 01:20


what's the difference between the E3B and E3C

British CAA licensed were you?

John Eacott 7th Jun 2018 02:13

It's a US military part designation, SASless ;)

SASless 7th Jun 2018 11:21

Confusing a Compass and a four engine Boeing is hard to do...even for an Army Helicopter pilot.

Sir Niall Dementia 7th Jun 2018 15:00


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 10167221)
Confusing a Compass and a four engine Boeing is hard to do...even for an Army Helicopter pilot.

I know one or two Air Force pilots who might struggle with that difference.

SND

ShyTorque 7th Jun 2018 20:01


So the pilot took his dog tags off and hung them from the compass binnacle and used the "cup in bowl" compass as a very rough AI (spirit level) and used the dog tags as a fine tune AI.
If the tags leant right they would compensate and so on.
It meant they didn't exceed Vmax, or Vmin and they didn't exceed AoB and stayed relatively 'upright' until they broke cloud and landed.
How's that for improvisation!
It would work in the simulator, yes as a spirit level, but not as an AI in the real aircraft. A simulator is fixed to the floor and can't sustain any "G" so the dog tags would always point to the earth.


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