Too little too late for what Sky451?

Type ratings
 

Be careful of the advise you get from the FAA. At the FSDO level, many inspectors are not as knowledgeable as they should be. Your best source of information is the FSIM or document 8900.10. Thar handbook is the guidance material for all FAA Inspectors. From what I have read in it, the transfer of type ratings is possible.

@sky, no idea what you are on about. Thanks for help Rick, will keep you informed......

Rick1128 SFSIM 8900.10 refers to the FARs.
Demented is in a particularly good position because he does not currently hold any FAA pilot licenses. He is however eligible under 61.153 to take an ATP examination under 61.155 and 61.157. If he takes that examination on a AW-139 helicopter or a AW-139 Full Flight Simulator, he shall have the coveted AW/AB-139 TR rating on it.

Otherwise NOT, end of it.:rolleyes:

Too little etc.
 

Apologies for not staying on topic in this thread

I was referring to.....

the AW 139 Simulator availability is sorely behind the pace of production/fielding this aircraft :ugh:
the simulator course costs are way out line with the aviation industry both rotary and fixed wing :ugh:

FSIMS and the 8900.1 is not the FARs. It is the guidance the FSDOs are suppose to use for how to do their job and what the regulations really mean.

Rick & Demented check your PMs

Next question regarding the 139 on the FAA licence. Would having the Augusta factory refresher course help to get the 139 on a FAA licence?

Are they saying you need to take the 2hr ATP check-ride again to get the AW139 TR on the FAA pilot certificate? Did I read that correctly?

Yes you need a check ride. It can be up to 3 hours, and it follows the same format as an ATP check ride.

Type Rating Costs
 

CAE in New Jersey and FSI do type ratings in the sim. Any idea what they cost is nowadays for those two training providers?

I believe it's in the order of $80k USD

Dem.... were you finally able to get the AW139 on your FAA ATP?

I am in a similar situation

1. An ICAO ATP with 139 type rating which was endorsed after factory training at Milan in 2010. Currently flying 139s.

2. Have a FAA pvt rotorcraft certificate of 2005, based on verification of ICAO ATP.

3. Want to do FAA knowledge test, medical and then a checkride on AW139 sim or heli with a DPE.

Is that an acceptable route? How did it work for you? Where did you do it?

Would appreciate inputs from Gulli, Tottigol and others too.

Thanks guys:)

Ted, best solution for you is to take the ATP written , get scheduled for a 61.57/58 FAA recurrent and take an ATP add on on your check ride.
The ground school and the sim time shall be your endorsement for the type rating.

Hi Tottigol... . I had a look at eCFR 61.57/58. Don't understand how it would help since that pertains to recent flt experience and Proficiency check.
Could you please elaborate.
Considering that I am currently flying 139s on ICAO license, can't I just do the written followed by a DPE checkride for ATP and Type rating?

thanks

Ted, I gave up, couldn't get answers and did not have $$$ to waste....

You can only use the Sim for a Type Rating Checkride at the end of a course of training for a Type Rating. You can't pitch up and book a Sim for a check only. This is not 139 specific but applies to other Types and Training Providers as well. Call FSI, for example, and ask, if you want.


To do it on the 139 helicopter itself, you must have completed training as required (can't remember the exact wording and don't have the FARs to hand), get a sign-off from a CFI and then a check with a DPE.


In theory, if you already have hours on Type, then the "Training" will be nominal, couple of hours to justify the sign-off from the CFI. However, you then have the logistical (and expensive) difficulty of getting an available 139, an available CFI and an available DPE all in the same place at more or less the same time. As any one of them on their own is as scarce as rocking horse ****, good luck with that!