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skadi 21st Mar 2012 14:56

Apache Crash in Afghanistan (Video)
 
AH 64 too low...

Amateurvideo: Kampfhubschrauberabsturz in Afghanistan - Video - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten

skadi

tbtstt 21st Mar 2012 16:09

Apache Crash in Afghanistan (Video)
 


:eek:

Reports are saying that both the ground crew and pilots are OK. Bloody lucky as, if you look at around 0:26, that looks mighty close to the ground crew! (though that could just be the perspective ;))

Hughes500 21st Mar 2012 16:29

What a prat, guess density/pressure altitude caught him out in a pedal turn ( presume the ah64 is an anti clock rotor so that was not a " torque turn")
Impressed with the crash survivability

SASless 21st Mar 2012 16:33

One should reduce Collective well into the maneuver...not at the bottom...and turning to the right would have been smarter as well.

But....by Gawd them Apaches are tough built things!

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...aw/apache2.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...aw/apache3.jpg

hillberg 21st Mar 2012 17:21

First pass has the first clue of DA (piss poor climb ) :=the rest is just being stupid,:O A pilot with bigger stones than brains, Ouch.:ugh:

BedakSrewet 21st Mar 2012 17:29

Your tax contribution at work......:ok:

Lonewolf_50 21st Mar 2012 21:37

It looks like, at the end, he tried to fly away from impact but had lost tail rotor and so went into rotation on lift off.

Is that the way you see it?

FairWeatherFlyer 21st Mar 2012 22:26

Could have popped off a few rockets to make a crater to give enough height to recover it, obviously not a quick thinker.

Was the final impact into powder snow?

VH-XXX 21st Mar 2012 23:50

I suspect they will lock him up for that display and afterwards a dishonourable discharge at best.

Shawn Coyle 22nd Mar 2012 00:32

The perils of showboating without proper practice and experience. No wind (at the surface, but who know what wind at the slight altitude he climbed to.
Be careful of wingovers from into wind to downwind!!

MartinCh 22nd Mar 2012 01:25


But....by Gawd them Apaches are tough built things!
That's what I thought and commented, when first seeing this vid shortly before checking rotorheads, after f-book. Seems to me TR driveshaft or thereabouts gave in after such cracking and bending of the tail.

alouette 22nd Mar 2012 03:29

Ahm...I think he carried the cojones in his brains. THINK!!!!

SuperF 22nd Mar 2012 08:09

Maybe a bit of good old Ag training wouldn't have gone astray.

krypton_john 22nd Mar 2012 08:41

See, this is what happens when you let mechanics do ground runs without pilot supervision.

<ducks>

Chipmunk Janie 22nd Mar 2012 10:39

Two questions:
1) How often does flying like that occur normally without incident, regardless of whether it is good practice or not?

2) Did the turn into the sun affect the pilot's judgement? Is it guaranteed the visor was down?

Jack Carson 22nd Mar 2012 12:41

A Demonstration of Mil Std 1290
 
The survivability of the crew is a tribute to the AH-64 and Mil Std 1290 of which it was designed.

SASless 22nd Mar 2012 13:04

Ah....the 64 Dollar (40.5 Pound Sterling) question....."How does one learn to do this safely.... without practice?":E

Flyting 22nd Mar 2012 13:49


....."How does one learn to do this safely....
Normally without a 64 million dollar machine that is not loaded with explodeables....:uhoh:

Looks very similar to the one done in S Africa with an Aloete 3 which was completely over loaded - mis-calculation on the figures when it was loaded...!

Just goes to prove my rule of thumb.... Don't :mad: around when there is a camera rolling....:O

malabo 22nd Mar 2012 14:34

He was probably hoping for this outcome.....

rotorrookie 22nd Mar 2012 14:40

Wing-over turn ending downwind is no no, (just like the in the Jet-box in Germany did and nearly crashed...) and full left pedal in the turn:ugh:
Did he mange to give those troops on the ground a real haircut or did they escape unharmed?
Probably the best waste of taxpayer’s money caught on film since the "Black Hawk tree trimmer"


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