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Genghis the Engineer 16th Nov 2011 13:00

North Sea Pilot Salaries
 
If there's a thread with this in already - apologies, I looked hard, but couldn't find the information.

Helping out with a project, I'm just trying to find a referenceable source of information about F/O and Captain salaries on the north sea.

Can anybody point me at anything?

Thanks,

G

helicrazi 16th Nov 2011 15:56

I dont think its written down anywhere in the public domain, that might cause a war :E

Hummingfrog 16th Nov 2011 18:12

When I was made redundant last year I was on more than enough:E but now I am a pensioner I have to shop in LIDLs:{

HF

grumpytroll 16th Nov 2011 18:55

measly
 
I've always heard it's around $150-200K :ok:

Cheers!

darrenphughes 16th Nov 2011 19:54

Is it some sort of closely guarded secret or something?

I take it there's no website like www.helicoptersalaries.com that list each company's pay scale.

BTW the numbers on that site above are a few years old.

SFIM 16th Nov 2011 20:20

I don't think it's classified, on the UK side I think one of the companies is

P2 About £41-66k
P1 about £79-103k

Training allowances on top, I think it should be more!

eastsideabz 17th Nov 2011 07:34

-£10k to the above at another :{

Wizzard 17th Nov 2011 12:02

SFIM has it about right

Training allowance £10k give or take

Swinging Rotor 17th Nov 2011 18:20

CHC Netherlands
 
Training bond for 5 years / 80 000€ (AW139)

All salaries before tax:

Entry salary first officer: 5000€
Entry salary senior first officer (after about 1-2 years): 6400€
Entry salary captain (after about 5 years): 8600€
Exit salary captain: 12 000€ (20+ years in the biz)

Tax in the Netherlands is about 40% over the whole salary, roughly speaking. Google it if you want it exact.

Add to this a vacation salary of about 75% of a months salary per year.

For expats a special tax applies which is about 25% instead of 40%. Some things regarding the pension is slightly less favourable with this option.

A basic pension on top of the salary is also saved via the government/union, roughly 10% of your netto salary. This should be taken into consideration if comparing to a "tax free - pension free salary".

I didnt calculate this to the cent so consider it a rough estimate.

The 3 salaries are from the 2012 CLA though, so they are solid and no secret.

Generally no way to get a direct entry captain position, best you can hope for is SFO. Seniority list applies.

Jet Ranger 17th Nov 2011 20:05

Great post.:ok::ok::ok:
The best!

helimutt 18th Nov 2011 07:38

Sometimes wish i'd never left, but this beats flying for a living! :E

Rotatohead 18th Nov 2011 07:59

@Swinging Rotor:
This is for a 6 on / 6 off schedule?
Thx!

kmax 18th Nov 2011 08:32

Nope You have to reside max 1 hour from Den Helder Airport.
No long rotations

212man 19th Nov 2011 08:59


Plenty of People living near Rotterdam or Friesland, up to 2 hours away
That must work well with fatigue management!

alpenjunge 20th Nov 2011 09:13

Thanks Swinging Rotor for the detailed information.

Is the payscale at CHC Norway similar to the one in the Netherlands? And what are Bristow and Dancopter offering their pilots (especially first officer/ senior first officer)?

A.

SFIM 20th Nov 2011 10:16

anecdotal evidence tells me that a newish captain at Dancopter gets about the same as an SFO on the UK side.

Swinging Rotor 20th Nov 2011 11:15

At the moment DanCopter has no contracts in the Netherlands.

If I remember correctly the salaries are about the same. Slightly higher with CHC than DanCopter if you take the pension and the vacation money into the picture.

However Dancopter work 14/14 and because of that does about 20 working days less per year. Bristow has some changes in their roster coming up that will put them somewhere between CHC and DanCopter in working days.

But at the bottom line, no major differences apart from lifestyle (commuting or living in-country)

I would be interested in seeing the numbers from CHC Norway and Bristow Norway too ... and CHC UK

kmax 21st Nov 2011 12:16

I thought everyone was living together in Schagen :O :\

helimutt 21st Nov 2011 18:58

I have the latest Bristow salary scale and CHC salary scale for UK.

Can't access it right now but as soon as I can i'll post it up.

ropelleri 22nd Nov 2011 09:25

NHV
 
Anybody know anything about NHV's pay?
Not just NorthSea but the rest as well?

MyTarget 26th Nov 2011 04:58

Firstly shouldn't you ask whats the company like to work for! But anyway in comparison to other touring jobs their pay is very competative.

Camp Freddie 26th Nov 2011 18:41

According to AOL UK, the 10 best paid jobs are as follows.
I have no idea where the data comes from and I know it includes plank drivers, but it is nice to be no.3
I bet however there are not many onshore heli pilots who earn more than £71,555 !


1.Directors and chief executives of major organisations £112,157
2.Corporate managers and senior officials £77,679
3.Pilots and flight engineers £71,555
4.Medical practitioners £69,952
5.Police officers (inspectors and above) £58,746
6.Air traffic controllers £55,352
7.Brokers £54,924
8.Financial managers and chartered secretaries £53,944
9.Managers in mining and energy £53,741
10.Protective service officers £49,394

Nf stable 27th Nov 2011 08:27

From what I'm hearing with the latest bunch of new recruits on the East side, it's more like £15 less. Ouch

2papabravo 28th Nov 2011 06:41

It actually stands at £17k less. I have friends who have just joined both east side and west side operators. Very disappointing.

Camp Freddie 28th Nov 2011 09:15


It actually stands at £17k less. I have friends who have just joined both east side and west side operators. Very disappointing.
So are you saying that some new starts are being taken on at £24k or are you saying something else?

2papabravo 28th Nov 2011 09:19

£33K vs £50K

Epiphany 28th Nov 2011 09:42

Be aware that retirement age with Bristow is 58 so make sure that your bank loan is paid off before then.

212man 28th Nov 2011 09:55


Be aware that retirement age with Bristow is 58 so make sure that your bank loan is paid off before then.
I may be wrong, but I think that went out the window a few years ago (soon after the pension scheme underwent a Chanter/Blake rework:ugh::ugh::ugh:)

Epiphany 28th Nov 2011 10:02

Well the contrcat that I signed said 58. I was always told that this allowed Bristow to terminate your services at that point if they wanted to replace you with a less expensive, younger, replacement or allow you to continue if it suited them.

Colibri49 28th Nov 2011 12:27

In 2006 the UK parliament enacted a law against age discrimination. This law generally supersedes contractual retirement ages, hence Bristow UK now has captains in their sixties working towards the international age limit of 65 for public transport flights.

Additionally Bristow UK has retired captains flying as contract day-rate copilots. A couple of these could have continued as permanent full-time captains, but chose not to.

The table above showing salaries for various occupations seems somewhat out of date.


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