detachment
 

Apparently one TR Blade detached and flew across the apron and came to a stop 50m later in front of the main departure terminal. Good fortune not to hit anything or anyone, although I'm told may have clipped a couple of main rotor blades.

Also believed to be just out of maintenance.

Additionally Im told P2 shut it down as it came apart.:D

Now that the one picture is now available, come on guys give us more. Apparently every man and his dog were snapping away !

Spoke.

I believe that not "all" AW139's in country are grounded. I think you will find it has to do with local aviation authority policy and company procedure to ground the affected company's remaining fleet of AW139's only, until such time both the manufacturer and aviation authority deem to be safe to resume operations. ;)

This Incident is similar to the Hong Kong one, or it seems...

ShellManagement. Can you tell us how a pilot was not "at the controls" on these fatal accidents

• 21-Jan-10 SAR aircraft off Almeria, Spain - 3 Fatal
• 23-Feb-11 Korean Coast Guard - 5 Fatal

Just found another photo of the Hong Kong one

http://www.helihub.com/wordpress/wp-...00703-bmhj.jpg

@helihub: although I dont think it was appropriate, SM probably meant that in the Almeria accident one is led to believe both pilots lost situational awareness, then made wrong corrections on the flight controls and let it fly its-self into the water.

http://www.fomento.es/NR/rdonlyres/7..._statement.pdf

I am in Qatar at present offshore. There have been no AW139 Operation in our field out here today.Not sure about anywhere else.
Flights in our field are being done by the Bell 214 which are the in-field helicopters running back and forward to Doha.

What is the structure?
 

Hard to tell from the photos, but what is the structure like? Is there any composite/adhesive bonded structure as in the tail boom?

Regards

blakmax

eivissa
 

and what about the korean AW139? no pilot at the controls?
these are the accident/incident involving AW139 helicopters (thank to Aviation Safety Network)

22-APR-2002 I-ACOI / 01 Bell/Agusta Aerospace fat. 2 near Monteleone, Cesena
21-JAN-2010 EC-KYR Salvamento Marítimo (Helisureste) fat. 3 Mediterranean Sea, off Almeria
03-JUL-2010 B-MHJ Sky Shuttle Helicopters, opf. East Asia Airlines fat.0 Victoria Harbour
23-FEB-2011 South Korean Coast Guard fat. 5 West of the resort island of Jeju

It's missing theaccident of June in Abu Dhabi involving Sheikh Nasser Bin Zayed Al Nahyan. all the passengers died.

In addition we have the 2 accident to Gulf helicopter, the one of 2009 and the seconf of yesterday.

So we have some fatal accident with pilot at the controls and the AW139 isn't safe as SM says.
But no helicopter are totally safer, for sure!

The AB crash was being test flown.
The Almeria was flown into the sea. Nothing mechanical as far as I was aware. CFIT.
The Hong Kong accident is still under investigation. Amazing how well the aircraft flew if it had no MGB.
The South Korean crash is also still under investigation isn't it?
Abu-Dhabi crash was flown into the sea. Not too sure who was flying at the time.
Gulf's two aircraft had no fatalities thankfully.

aegir
 

You are right. We dont know yet what happened to the Korean AW139 or at least I haven't seen any new information and I forgot to address that. Also I forgot to mention the crash in Abu Dhabi, but that was probably what SM was on about.

Some people like to think it was Sheikh Nasser Bin Zayed Al Nahyan at the controls at the time of the crash. We will probably never find out.

If all the AW139 crash rumours were true we have a machine with considerable weaknesses in the aft section as well as pilots loosing situational awareness in best flying conditions.

Does anyone have the airframe and/or component times (TR) of the HK and Doha a/c? Are the numbers close?

Another photo:

http://sjdrimages.com/Mb/UserUploads/s85Ar11QPl6n56.JPG

eivissa
 

I completly agree with you, this weakness of the AW139 it's very dangerous and seems that Agusta hasn't found a solution up to now!

Thankfully these two accidents happened when the helicopter was on ground!

not just another for the AW139, another incident 4 Gulf
 

what about the collective control snapping in two mid-flight on the 412 at gulf helis last year?

seems things have gone very quiet about that incident- any news?

Now another major component breaking in their fleet? :sad: who's looking after the ponies in gulf heli's stables?

Yes, GHC are very consistent...:eek:

Perhaps the old chestnut of "you pay peanuts.." refers to their Engineering history of recent years.. :{

When I was there early 2000, they had a great team of Aussie engineers and pilots and things ran pretty smoothly.. :ok:

I'll say this only once... White middle UN-TRAINED management.......

:ugh: Like to know what was source of that "tail fire" than
jump in to big words cloclusions....

Hydraulic fire? :rolleyes:

For educational purposes...
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2..._2999Small.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2..._3015Small.jpg

Regards
Aser

AW139 incident with Gulf Helis
 

Let see to whom to be blame this time ... Manufacturer or engineering .
This is too much now