PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Rotorheads (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads-23/)
-   -   £25 fine for no yellow coat""" (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/446503-25-fine-no-yellow-coat.html)

TOT 22nd Mar 2011 19:28

£25 fine for no yellow coat"""
 
So on a sunny day, we go to glorious Caernarvon.
Walking from the heli to the cafe I am approached by some busy body, telling me that I have got a £25 pound penalty fine for not wearing my yellow coat!!!.
orders from the management!!
ok, so I should have it on, I forgot - sorry.
I really dont want to pay, go and take a running jump!
surely this cannot be legal and it cannot be enforced- can it??,

I will be crossing Caernarvon of my user friendly list of places to visit!!!:\

g-mady 22nd Mar 2011 19:34

Thank god you didn't do it at Harwarden - You get 3 points for each offence up to 9 points!

You'll probably get shot at!

Im sure they would rather keep your buisness - Your next visits landing fee will be a similar amount.

The airfield have a difficult job though as its the threat of the CAA that makes them take this sort of action.

Try Sywell though - One of 2 airfields I know with a bit of common sense (you dont have to wear them!)

MADY

JTobias 22nd Mar 2011 19:49

Hi

Doubt it can be enforced.
In fact I'd hazard a guess that there is absolutely no-way it can be enforced.

And yes, visit Sywell. Very sensible place, as the photo below taken whilst competing in last years Helicopter Club of Great Britain Air Games demonstrates. This was taken only 30 minutes after I was accosted at Halfpenny Green airfield for not wearing Hi Vis.

I was then accosted by Mick -for wearing one !!!!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/HiVisJkt.jpg

mfriskel 22nd Mar 2011 20:28

Has England completely lost the plot?

Would I be fined if I landed my NREG after arriving from Greenland and got out with no hi-vis vest?

pitot212 22nd Mar 2011 20:37

I can go one better than that! Guardia Civil at Jerez once invited me to a free night in a cell for not finding my yellow jacket asap. Not one to argue with these very nice people I soon found one!!!!!!!!

S76Heavy 22nd Mar 2011 20:46

Those yellow things present more of a safety hazard than a safety enhancement...

Unfortunately, in this day and age of lawsuits, common sense is regarded a character flaw, or so it seems.:yuk:

TRC 22nd Mar 2011 20:57

Ronaldsway IOM, is a huge airfield – and I mean HUGE.

One summer morning – 06.00 – we were prepping our 355 in the far corner of this vast airfield, parked on a large expanse of grass between two taxiways. Nothing was moving except us.
Then we see a vehicle approaching. It stops on the taxiway about 40 yards away, out steps a policeman, all flat cap and hi-vis jacket.

“Morning lads, got any hi-vis with you?”

“Well, yes – somewhere….. we’re just leaving.”

“Put ‘em on next time, eh?”

“Certainly officer.”

His car was the ONLY thing moving on that airfield that could have hit us – and he saw us (without hi-vis gear) from the tower HALF A MILE AWAY!!

heliski22 22nd Mar 2011 21:00

Perhaps warnings to "Beware the Yellow Peril" of over 100 years ago were way ahead of their time and mistakenly turned our eyes to the East when we should, in fact, be looking at all these bloody hi-vis jackets instead?!!:E

Herod 22nd Mar 2011 21:13

Interesting fact. Almost every injury on a UK airfield in the last ten years has involved someone wearing a yellow jacket. Statistically this proves YELLOW JACKETS ARE DANGEROUS.

Fly_For_Fun 22nd Mar 2011 21:14

What would happen if you were colour blind and put a blue jacket on instead, a very nice fashionable one. You know the sort, with a cute hood and elasticated cuffs. :ok:

ambidextrous 22nd Mar 2011 21:23

f.a.o: Hardy Buck
 
Sorry to appear thick but does this argument apply to both traffic & parking regulations?:ok:

mfriskel 22nd Mar 2011 21:29

I do believe that the UK has "jumped the shark"!
Surely it is not too late to begin to be responsible for yourselves, your safety, our lives in general and to take that responsibility away from your government and soliciters.

TRC 22nd Mar 2011 21:32

It's not just a UK thing - it's our beloved EEC. God bless 'em.

spinwing 22nd Mar 2011 21:41

Mmmmm ...

It has always amused me to find that walking to/from around my assigned aircraft in my brilliant white shirt (albeit with very tarnished bars on shoulders) that I am deemed invisible for safety purposes BUT makes me highly visible for bollocking purposes .....


:rolleyes:

cyclic flare 22nd Mar 2011 21:42

:ugh:I was on a european trip collecting a machine from majorca landed at airfields in Spain and several in France with no Hi Vis no problem at all I landed at Blackpool just near Seedles if you know it, shut down and was walking across the apron when a man came running over screaming at me where's your hi vis.

The problem was he wasn't wearing one either. I was flying a Robinson and i think he thought I was a 50 hour PPL, my reply was where's yours Mr and he said I work here!!!

He must of been exempt from being flattened by a jet because he worked there clearly a clown.

The world has gone H&S bonkers. In my other life I work in construction and have just received a special offer 3 operatives for the day on a "how to use a step ladder" £500 plus VAT ?????????????

TRC 22nd Mar 2011 22:17


.... airfields in Spain and several in France with no Hi Vis no problem at all
That's what pi$$e$ me off more than anything.

The bloody EEC comes up with the rules and regs and just about everyone except us ignores them.

mfriskel 22nd Mar 2011 23:06

So all in all, is the EEC, is the European Union a good thing for Europe and the UK? Are you better off than you were in the 90s or the 80s, or just more headaches to deal with? Do the collective governments know you and what is best for you, better than you know yourselves?

Tailboom 22nd Mar 2011 23:26

Hi Vis
 
I'm sure I've just read an article in Loop/Wings that some airfields are discouraging the wearing of Hi Vis Jackets.

Ive just come of a H&S course for my garage business, it has just amazed me that when checking our method statements we even have one for using our vacum cleaner !!!!!!!!

parabellum 22nd Mar 2011 23:28

Very boring, I know, but...........................
 
If the regulations require a Hi Viz jacket and you are not wearing one it is quite possible the insurers will find you 50% responsible for any accident you might be involved in and halve your pay out! Bummer.


(If you have pax and you don't provide them with Hi Viz, in the event of an accident, you could find yourselves in very deep merde).

TRC 22nd Mar 2011 23:34

Another so-called regulation that makes me laugh is having to use four-way flashers when you drive a vehicle airside.

How they make a 15 x 5 x 4 foot vehicle more visible in broad daylight is quite beyond me.


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:29.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.