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xtremalsound 19th Mar 2011 15:27

firefighting helicopter crashed in Spain 19th March 2011
 
One Inaer's bell 407 crashed some hours ago in Teruel ( Spain). 6 persons have died and one serous injured.... The helicopter was going to small
Fire with authority lost the contact with them.

RIP ALLS

Jerry Can 19th Mar 2011 16:53

Sad news. RIP

Aser 19th Mar 2011 17:13

R.I.P. :-(

eivissa 19th Mar 2011 18:10

Very sad news. My sincere condolences :(

I find it kind of disturbing that Inaer's website never mentions anything whenever people crash and die within the company.

http://www.rtve.es/imagenes/accident...0562590662.jpg

maeroda 19th Mar 2011 18:19

Sad day!
R.I.P !!

Newforest2 19th Mar 2011 18:52

The triple exclamation marks seem a trifle unnecessary in this sad situation. There should be no surprise that accidents occur in this type of operation which is probably as dangerous as EMS operations.

helihub 19th Mar 2011 22:30

Let us not forget that Korea also had a fatal firefighting helicopter crash today :-(

helihub 19th Mar 2011 23:26

Photo in better times
 
http://www.aviacioncomercial.net/rnac/f1947/ECKTA01.jpg

Gordy 20th Mar 2011 05:42

RIP, See y'all on the flip side......

Gordy and the crew of the MTF Helitack....

Perrito Piloto 20th Mar 2011 18:57

INAER Bell 407 crashed in Teruel (Spain)
 
Yesterday, a firefighting INAER Bell 407 crashed in Teruel (Spain).
6 fatalities (pilot and 5 firemen) and one injured.

Mueren seis brigadistas antiincendios al estrellarse su helicóptero en Teruel · ELPAÍS.com

No further info yet.



INAER has one of the highest accidents rate in the helicopter business.

At this time, INAER managers are charged for the accident of a S61N in Canary Islands.

Directivos de INAER, imputados por el accidente de helicóptero de Tenerife

Luís Miñano (INAER) declarará como imputado de Homicidio por Imprudencia Grave

Working times in INAER are a kind of slavery.
Pilots works up to 2,440 working hours per year.

SAR A139 crashed in Almería (Spain) a year ago belongs to INAER.

Be careful, guys...

Gordy 20th Mar 2011 19:07

See Here:

BTW----I work more than that....

mickjoebill 20th Mar 2011 23:01

Cabin looks largley intact.
No sign of fire.
Yet shockingly 6 died.

Were they wearing helmets?



Mickjoebill

HeliPilot1 4th Apr 2011 19:55

407 down in spain
 
Anyone have more information on this?

R.I.P

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NTSB Identification: ENG11RA023
14 CFR Unknown
Accident occurred Saturday, March 19, 2011 in Alcorsia, Teruel, Spain, Spain
Aircraft: BELL Bell, registration: EC-KTA
Injuries: Unavailable
On March 19, 2011, at 12:35 UTC, a Bell 407 helicopter crashed near the town of Villastar, Teruel - Spain. The helicopter crashed while transporting a fire brigade to extinguish a blaze in the eastern part of Spain about 400 kilometers from Madrid. The pilot, along with 5 passengers, were killed. The other occupant was seriously injured.

eivissa 4th Apr 2011 19:59

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/446...ch-2011-a.html

If you are concerned that it was someone you knew. Names via PM.

fokkerpilot 5th Apr 2011 08:42

Any information on what was the reason for the accident?
Bad weather, technical problem etc..?

Gordy 5th Apr 2011 14:39

Have not heard a thing, even through the "fire world" grapevine.

Maybe someone closer could answer some questions for me. Is it typical to fly with 6 firefighters on board in Spain?

Here in the US I fly initial helitack with an L4. With fuel for 90 minutes, bucket, longline etc we only have enough weight left for 3 firefighters with gear. (Admittedly, I have to keep it somewhat light in that our operations go upto 8,500 ft with typical temps of 25C.) During the "sea level" portion of my contract, we fly with just under 3 hours of fuel, but still only 3 firefighters. We just do not have any more room in the aircraft for more.

When doing a crew shuttle, we will put fup to five firefighters on board, but at this point we will not have the bucket on board, again most of our people are not small and would not even fit in the rear middle seat.

apb 5th Apr 2011 16:08

Usually:

AS350: 5 firefighters

Koala and 407: 6 firefighters

Gordy 5th Apr 2011 18:05

apb...

Thanks...

Do they carry fire packs etc, and do you carry a bucket on the aircraft? (just trying to figure how much weight you guys are carrying).

apb 5th Apr 2011 19:16

They carry all that is necesary to fight against fire and a bamby bucket.

Gordy 6th Apr 2011 03:40


They carry all that is necesary to fight against fire and a bamby bucket.
At 6 people, that is an average of 1,200 lbs plus the weight of the bucket, pilot and fuel.... Would love to see a load calc for that... PM me and maybe we can exchange some ideas.


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