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nodrama 28th Feb 2011 17:19


Although of course, any helicopter is better than no helicopter.
Just so.....it's a temporary measure to provide a service, rather than no service. Beggar's can't be choosers.
The Bolkow has always worked fine before, if it is used as an 'ambulance' and not expected to be an airborne casualty theatre.

Danscowpie 28th Feb 2011 19:01

Don't forget that nearly every Air Ambualnce Helicopter in the UK and Europe was at one time, a B105.
It's only in the last five years they've been anything different, but there's no reason why Bond cannot take over from where Sterling have screwed up to the extent that they can't possibly hope to stay in business.

No fault of the staff on the coalface, Longmint have a lot to answer for.

Rowan James 28th Feb 2011 20:40

Robust service
 
"With EAAA's recent investment in a robust doctor/paramedic service"

Eh?

So I ask one of the paras how this is all going. He tells me he turns up at work and meets a doc and a pilot who he's never met before. The doc has never worked in the area (up from HEMS on a £500 jolly). Pilot does a brief and famil and it's all jolly hockey sticks under the much vaunted EMSC Ltd 'governance' banner...

Robust? Doesn't sound like it. Not to mention the cab...:ugh:

whodictus 1st Mar 2011 06:42

I am pretty sure that Sterling were running a Bolkow as a back up to the back up 117's so whats the problem as a short term fix

Phil Space 1st Mar 2011 07:27

Gerry Hermer set the whole thing up and was such a nice guy.

He did my Schweitzer 300 ticket 20 years ago.

Now it comes to this.

Can't see Sterling fixing this.

wickednorthernwitch 1st Mar 2011 08:09

Leading man required for panto
 
It seems like Gerry Hermer is a really good guy. Maybe Longmint should get a new man for the leading role and then this pantomime could be brought to a successful conclusion.

Or maybe that is not what the company wants!

wickednorthernwitch 1st Mar 2011 08:16

Hi Nitram

You say "employees" in the LHS. That implies that there is more than one. Interesting!

I remember an ex apache pilot looking for a flying job with TAMS but he did not have the required number of hours. Maybe he got one of the LHS jobs instead.

Phil Space 1st Mar 2011 08:32

The best thing that can happen is Sterling dies and the EAAA operate their own helicopters.

Sir Niall Dementia 1st Mar 2011 08:43

A look at the background to the Erinaceous Group shows that some of the original companies were bought back by their founders when Erinaceous went under. Maybe there might be an opportunity to do the same here.

Certainly I can't help thinking that maybe the D of T should look at the suitability of Bellis and Cummings to be company directors.

Whirlygig 1st Mar 2011 11:08


The best thing that can happen is Sterling dies and the EAAA operate their own helicopters.
Er no, that is NOT the best thing that can happen. The best thing that can happen would be for another well-managed helicopter operator to come aong and buy them from Longmint. There's more to Sterling than just the Air Ambulance. :rolleyes:

Certainly I can't help thinking that maybe the D of T should look at the suitability of Bellis and Cummings to be company directors.
One would have thought that maybe even Bellis x2/Cummings might have twigged themselves that they're not very good at running businesses. :ugh: :*

Once owned assets were remortgaged ... what happened to the cash? Aston Martins maybe? However, if that is the case, that cash should be shown as an inter-company loan which Longmint have a duty to pay back. If Administrators are brought in, then these issues will be investigated. Any financial regularities will be investigated and reported to Dept of Business, Innovation & Skills.

However, anyone can hurry the process along!

How to complain

Cheers

Whirls

ExMAGE 1st Mar 2011 12:58


One would have thought that maybe even Bellis x2/Cummings might have twigged themselves that they're not very good at running businesses
How can you say that. They live in a large mansion and drive around in the finest sports cars. Surely they know exactly what they are doing.:hmm:
I doubt they are not paying themselves either.

I imagine that they will see the recent "retirements" as more money they can spend on themselves. I wonder how many more are about to leave that we haven't heard of yet.

There are a lot of good people in the longmint companies and it is a great shame to see it go this way. Fortunately the EAAA has been saved; hopefully others will come along to help the others in the group.


EM

Whirlygig 1st Mar 2011 13:17


They live in a large mansion
All three of them? How cosy! :E


I wonder how many more are about to leave that we haven't heard of yet.
At least two.

Cheers

Whirls

theloudone 1st Mar 2011 14:29

I hear its not all rosey at Sloanes either !
Dont they operate air ambo`s as well ?

ExMAGE 1st Mar 2011 15:21

I don't think it is rosy for any of the small companies at the moment. But the way this group has carried on is disgraceful.

How long have we heard tales of baliffs and non payments of salaries, now key people are leaving. Surley they will have to pull something big out of the bag this time.

EM

theloudone 1st Mar 2011 15:36

Is this again another triumph of top heavy management taking hug salaries ?

vfr440 1st Mar 2011 16:05

Staff leaving
 
"At least two"

I heard a rmour today that the Ch Eng is on garden leave before leaving at the end of March. Anybody confirm? :sad: ~ VFR

lynx no more 1st Mar 2011 19:28

Shame about Sterling, Gerry H knew what the customer wanted and operated a fine ship. He was well respected in the industry.
Longmint must be making out of these deals, why let a good setup like Sterling go under, especially with the pipelines and the money they earn?
Is it because they end up owning the land and have a mission to wind up small companies ?
Cant see it making any sense from where I'm sitting, but then I drive an old banger and not an Aston like them..

nightowl59 1st Mar 2011 20:17

Staff leaving
 
I hear too that the Chief Pilot is also on the move :confused:

Rigga 1st Mar 2011 21:21

"Is it because they end up owning the land and have a mission to wind up small companies ?"

There's no land involved at NWI - it just sounds like management blunders making the post-holders (3 of them?) jump.

No CAM, or no Chf Eng, or no Chf Pilot = no AOC

It will take a lot of effort to regain an AOC (1st) trust & then a reputation.

"you can do 1000 things right, but people will only remember the 1 thing you did wrong"

Whirlygig 1st Mar 2011 22:04


people will only remember the 1 thing you did wrong
Which was Maynard and Harris selling to Longmint in the first place.

I doubt there are many (if any) people in the industry who would have a bad thing to say against any of the people who worked at/for Sterling ... hopefully, their reputation, if they remain or come back, would return quite quickly IF new ownership and management were to take over.

Cheers

Whirls


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