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Captain Whistlingoat 22nd May 2011 16:14

I use the A20 and it's great. Very comfortable and no fatigue. My friend is on the A320 and has also bought one. He's also very impressed.:ok:

Captain Whistlingoat 22nd May 2011 16:18

@EN48

I wonder if you can tell me how you got the iPhone to stream music over Bluetooth - I always thought the A20 only did calls over Bluetooth.

EN48 22nd May 2011 16:59


I wonder if you can tell me how you got the iPhone to stream music over Bluetooth
Sure. I use a PS Engineering PMA 8000BT audio panel with integrated BlueTooth capability. I chose this over BT in the A20 as it is considerably more capable. See: PS Engineering :audio select panels
This audio panel is superb in every respect, and not all that expensive to retrofit especially if you already have a Garmin 340 or other PSE 8000 series audio panel.

Sonic69 13th Aug 2011 08:22

Bose A20 or Zulu.2 in the airbus
 
Did your friend in the A320 use a GA to Airbus XLR adapter?
I fly the A320 too and am considering either getting the Bose A20 or Lightspeed Zulu.2 with LEMO plug and using a LEMO to XLR adapter from Marv Golden. That makes it neater (1 cable instead of 2).

Anybody out there tried this yet?

JaredYng 21st Aug 2011 04:37

Bose A20
 
Hello everyone, I have a question about the Bose A20.

I understand that the bluetooth version has a high impedance mic and the non-bluetooth has a low impedance mic. Therefore I'm under the impression that the non-bluetooth version would work in China. Does anyone know this for sure? Are the plugs different in China?

Epiphany 21st Aug 2011 05:16

I think the plugs are the same but the sockets go sideways.

ec155mech 21st Aug 2011 06:21

HA HA thats funny :)

depends on the aircraft, I fly in the UK but on H300 which has the US U174 plug ( aka Nato ) which has the high imp. some of the other aircraft that I work on, has the same plug but is low Imp. so its not country specific but aircraft specific. what are you flying in china ?

JaredYng 21st Aug 2011 19:32

It's not me flying them but a friend so I'm looking into it for him.

AS332 is what he'll be flying. With potential for the EC155.

JaredYng 25th Aug 2011 05:15

Has anyone specifically used the A20 non-bluetooth in these aircraft in China?

Outwest 25th Aug 2011 06:24

As pointed out, it is irrelevant where the a/c are located in the world. You need to determine what the specific a/c uses, high/low impedance, 6 pin/u174 plugs.

If it is a low impedance system then order the non-blue tooth headset, with either a 6pin or U174 plug.

ec155mech 25th Aug 2011 06:33

If my memory serves me right. the EC155 is a low Imp system but will check it tomorrow on the headsets we have, the plug however is a standard U174 Helicopter plug. I dont know about the 332 ??

Outwest 25th Aug 2011 07:10

You can not say just because you have a 155 that is low impedance, that all 155s' are such. It depends on vendors/customers requirements/requests.

The only way to be sure you get the right impedance is to check the specific a/c you intend to use the headset in.

ec155mech 25th Aug 2011 07:37

duly noted Outwest, I have however been intimate with quite a few EC155's and AS365's all over the world and I have yet to find one with a High Imp system in them.

but if you can show me otherwise I will be happy to be proven wrong, you live you learn you know :)

Outwest 25th Aug 2011 08:58

We have 2 365Ns' on this base, both are high impedance....

JaredYng 25th Aug 2011 13:38

Thank you very much.

ec155mech 25th Aug 2011 16:14

well I will be darned.. thanks for sharing this outwest, much appreciated :)

which N's are they ?

Outwest 25th Aug 2011 16:29

N3's

I should mention that this company was a low impedance company for many, many years. Whenever a new type came online regardless of what it came with from the factory, it was converted to low. This changed when the S76C+ was introduced. All 76 A, A+, A++'s low, C+, C++ high.

The company finally started to switch over to high impedance on most types (139 for example). However, this is not a hard and fast rule, as I'm told by a friend who is on a brand new 225 that it is low impedance. This caused a bit of a problem both logistically and financially as pilots who might fly 2 types needed to carry both mics for a Bose, or use a DC that had a conversion switch.
:ugh:

ec155mech 25th Aug 2011 17:03

139's have their own weird plug dont they ??

a converter you say. where might one get his little shady hands on one of them ?

Outwest 25th Aug 2011 18:15


139's have their own weird plug dont they ??
Yes, so we have drop cords installed with U174 plugs on the end.


a converter you say. where might one get his little shady hands on one of them ?
Sorry, should have been more specific. There are David Clark headsets available that have a switch built in that allows you to select either high or low impedance.

Pandalet 26th Aug 2011 08:01


a converter you say. where might one get his little shady hands on one of them ?
There are converters around for both directions. A high impedance setup requires the panel to provide power to the mic, so the converter for using a low impedance mic (which doesn't need powering) in a high impedance aircraft will power itself from the panel, and generally works ok. Using a high impedance mic in a low impedance aircraft requires an extra source of power (since the panel isn't expecting to supply any), so these converters usually include a battery (generally a 9V PP9).

The better option seems to be a low impedance mic with a low->high converter, but different aircraft react differently. Converters can cause issues with VOX, for example (e.g. line held constantly open, etc).

There are plenty of suppliers around the 'net who stock this sort of thing; plug 'aircraft impedance converter' into your favourite search engine.


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