Anything big enough to lift a Chinook from 14,000?
 

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Lutheran High Student Dies In Fall Near Little Bear Peak

Helicopter Rescue Crew Makes Hard Landing During Rescue

POSTED: 6:40 am MDT June 16, 2010

UPDATED: 8:21 am MDT June 16, 2010

DENVER -- An Army National Guard Chinook helicopter dispatched to rescue a fallen climber made a hard landing near Alamosa after one of the aircraft's rotors struck the terrain on Little Bear Peak Tuesday.
The rescue crew was headed to help rescue a stranded hiker from Highlands Ranch.
The hiker, 18-year-old Kevin Hayne, died before crews could rescue him. According to a friend's post on a climbing enthusiast message board, Hayne was hiking to the summit of Little Bear Peak when he fell.
One poster wrote, "Were hiking the hourglass just shy of the summit of Little Bear Peak. The hourglass was completely iced over and was impassible, we decided to take a ledge on the left side of the hourglass and decided to wait and see if the sun would help melt anything out."
The poster writes that after waiting, both decided to continue and that is when Hayne lost his balance and fell several feet, breaking his back.
"When I got to him he was breathing heavily and both his arms looked broken, both of our spot trackers malfunctioned at a terrible time," wrote the poster. "I waited 30 minutes by chance that the distress signal did go out, tried to comfort Kevin, and after no response from either Kevin or search and rescue, I made the hardest decision of my life and had to hike out, leaving my bruised and bloody partner behind."
Hayne's friend later writes that he went to get help. It took him about three hours to get to Alamosa and get search and rescue to help his friend.
One friend wrote, "I know he's in heaven though. RIP Kevin Andrew Haynes a technical man, a musician, a Christian, but most importantly friend. He will never be forgotten in the lives of the thousands that he touched."
The Chinook reached the site where Hayne fell, but was forced to make the hard landing after a rotor hit the terrain, said National Guard spokesman Maj. Elena O'Bryan.
Seven crewmembers based out of Buckley Air Force Base were on board the helicopter at the time. None were injured.
Three civilian emergency responders made their way to Hayne, but by the time they got to him, he had already died, O'Bryan said.
A security team stayed with the Chinook overnight. The aircrew was evacuated to Fort Carson on a Black Hawk helicopter.
O'Bryan said officials are investigating why Chinook hit the terrain. The Chinook will have to be lifted away by a larger helicopter.
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Probably a Mi 26..any around?

De-Fuel it, remove the gear boxes and blades, engines,cargo hooks, APU,floor, and ramp, and bring in another Chinook....spot fuel close to the lift site....call Columbia Helicopters to bring in one of their 234's and Bob's yer uncle!

The Chinook empty weight is advertised to be about 23,000 pounds and the Columbia 234 Utility can lift 21,000 at sea level on a standard day. The Sky Crane might be a consideration as well after the Chinook is stripped of unneccesary weight.

You might have to wait until cold weather gets back again.....maybe.

CH-53E might, (if 23 K is the GW to be lifted) but not sure about the "at 14,000'" part.

"At sea level" isn't much help when one is up there in the Mountains ... :sad:

Any -53E pilots around?

Another Chinook might do it but the others mentioned all suffer large performance loss with altitude. Even the monster Mi 26 that has lifted 25 tons at sea level can hardly outlift an Mi 8 MTV at 10 000 feet so I dont think its an option. As mentioned, strip everything off it and call in one of its brethren.

Very good to s76heavy and jim63. The answer is of corse Mi26 and I suggestion that Americans to buy more of these if you want proper strong lift ability for your continent!

According to that video you can use CGI to lift one...:E

I know how dedicated 'moscovite' is to anything Russian but .. it probably wouldn't be a bad idea for the US defence forces to be a few 26's to support their ops (esp. Chook recovery).

HeavyCopter recovery
 

moscovite, The U.S. already has strong lift capability in the Chinook. If the U.S. did have a few Mi26 machines, how could the U.S. Government ever lift them out (recover them) if needed? At least now they can lease a heavycopter (of which I am a great admirer, by the way).

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...y911/Heavy.jpg

fly911 (is that memory for sept 11?) it is good you supporting Mi26 - Mi26 give 'hook' on 'chin' every time hey ha ... you can call him the chin - hooker .. hey

If your gov't buy Mi26 (we have for sale) you will recover by using 2 x Mi26. We construct for you inter connect bar (this use framework steel for strength).

From the connect bar we have 8 wire rope steel to disperse load which make into one lift point at bottom. 2 x Mi26 easily lift Mi26 back to home.

i heard from one pilot that he saw two mi-26 lifting one load, do you have a picture of something like that?

not sure if they still have it, but Airborne Energy Services in Whitecourt Alberta had a Mi26 leased for a period of time. i've heard somewhat recently that it went back to Russia but it might be worth looking into.
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Dual Sling Load
 

Moscovite, Are you sure that 2 x Heavycopter can lift one load? This does not seem possible. Do you have a picture of this? I think this would help you sell the mi26.... Mike

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q140/fly911/HCP.jpg

Are you sure ? That's more like the price of an EC-155

repair it in situ including re-fitting any damageed overhauled parts? And fly it out

Two Mi 26 was capable to lift Buran space taxi, friend and partner of mine
was on that duty :ok:

You'd think that there would be a picture of that. Can anybody help with a picture of a dual Mi26 lift?
Thanks.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...911/space1.jpg

Um... lifting... your research abilities are indeed impressive. I have Googled every image every way I could think of. Thanks for your efforts.

View the dual lift image by clicking on the following link located by Um... lifting...


Energiya-Buran: the Soviet space shuttle - Google Books

Um... lifting..., I don't suppose that you could put your superior research abilities to work helping with this thread?

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/417...rnal-seat.html