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bugdevheli 31st Dec 2009 14:41

All i need now is the balls to try it
 
Homebuilt job
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/PICT0007.jpg

parasite drag 31st Dec 2009 15:21

What can you do with it Bug, apart from a sneaky hover ?

I'm guessing it doesn't have a permit ?

Other nations are awash with 'experimentals'..but they're useless over here in Blighty

PD

Heli-Ice 31st Dec 2009 16:45

Does anyone have that big balls?

helimutt 31st Dec 2009 16:50

I'd have a go at hovering it but i'd prefer it to have a collective. :ok:

bugdevheli 31st Dec 2009 17:16

All i need now is the balls
 
The end of the collective is just visible next to the lower part of the cyclic. It is a white disc with a flat on it. Bug .

iainms 31st Dec 2009 17:29

Bug... that :confused:

Vee-r 31st Dec 2009 17:33

Wheels?
 
Surely you can just pick it up...

HOGE 31st Dec 2009 18:04

Don't forget the Fedora and overcoat when experimenting with new types.

http://www.aviastar.org/foto/vought-sik_vs-300.jpg

500e 31st Dec 2009 19:46

What are the wheels on rear boom? Please don't tell me its a belt drive to rear fan
I presume the vertical case is a cover for the drive either chain or belt to a X shaft & then a bevel to the top fanny thing and the tail drive is off the X shaft. I presume that is the reason for the steeped pulley in centre of boom.
I have Small .. so will be of no use whatsoever :E please keep me informed as to your continued health, as my granny said to each his own looks well put together though

MartinCh 31st Dec 2009 20:14

it's budget homebuilt.
No need for angled gearboxes :-)
Belt would do. And you get get replacement in homebase..

22clipper 1st Jan 2010 00:50

size counts
 
More substantial seatbelt than the Robbies. Be careful. Small choppers remind me of toy dogs, they can have a nasty bite disproportionate to their statue.

toolowtoofast 1st Jan 2010 01:52

I'm not sure the multiple failure points on the tailboom are necessary - way too complicated!

ReverseFlight 1st Jan 2010 02:08

I think the size of the carton of juice at the top is disproportionate to the size of the machine.

VfrpilotPB/2 1st Jan 2010 12:36

Mitigate the problems that you might feel would arise, wear some good bodyarmour and connect the battery, I think I would have a go but what really puts me off is all those drive belts to the T/r , wind blown leaves would cause those belts to come adrift, they look flat would be better if Vees. and short belt connection to drive a lightweight shaft thru a small G/Box

Get some body to Vid it when your trying, Oh and what about tethering it to a couple of tractors, very interesting! Good luck!:eek:

Peter R-B
Vfr

Matari 1st Jan 2010 13:59

Same machine, but with a different M/R head? Love the BERP blades and skateboards for ground handling:


helimutt 1st Jan 2010 14:25

after watching that video, just a couple of points!

1. are those flat belts driving the tail rotor?:eek:

2. Is this just a wind up?:confused:

3. I've changed my mind!;)

JohnDixson 1st Jan 2010 14:28

"Trying it"
 
You could call up the Pilots Office at Westland, and I am sure someone would be glad to give you advice on how to proceed.

Thanks,
John Dixson

onetrack 1st Jan 2010 14:36

I don't know what frightens me more - the cheap, supermarket-style, plastic fuel container, that obviously has passed muster as a fuel tank (please tell me, it's fuel-rated plastic) - or the frightening multiple-belt tail rotor drive system that reminds one of a flat-belt-powered machine shop, of pre-WW1 vintage.

I reckon the life of the whole unit, including the operator (I wouldn't dare call him a pilot - a circus daredevil, would be a more fitting term) revolves around the life of the plastic fuel container - which I would estimate at 3 weeks maximum - and possibly even considerably less, if subjected to strong UV light ..... :eek:

bugdevheli 1st Jan 2010 15:00

All i need is the balls to try it
 
For those of a more technical nature. The small blades in the video clip were only to put a little drag on the drive system whilst testing the tail rotor. The tail drive system was run for several hours at on and a half times its normal running speed. The vee and toothed belts have given no problems to date. Belts provided a lighter method of transmitting power to the tail, negating the need for an anglebox on the boom,helping with the longtitudinal balance. As i have some 80 hp available the extra drag of the belts is not a promblem. The small fuel tank ensures only short runs are possible during testing. Each run is followed by a full inspection of all critical components.The tailboom is extendable via a carbon sleeve, this allows all belts to be tensioned at one go.

slowrotor 1st Jan 2010 15:23

I like the belts. Should work fine as long as they don't come off the wheels.

Looks cool!


p.s. Hope you have some recent piloting time or dual instruction.


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