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norunway 21st Jul 2009 17:22

Bond Cork
 
Anyone hear that Bond have won the contract in Cork off CHC in support of offshore gas production,using an EC135.

Wizzard 21st Jul 2009 17:37

No, I haven't.

NorthSeaTiger 21st Jul 2009 17:55

Is this something to do with the Blackpool contract that was mentioned ? Do CHC do anything other than SAR in Ireland ?

NST

Pink Panther 21st Jul 2009 20:17

Got a brief mention here last week. The rumour is Bond won the contract using a 135. CHC have been operating out of Cork airport, servicing gas rigs off Kinsale for quite a few years now using a 365. As I understand it current contract finishes May 10.

doorstopper 21st Jul 2009 20:20

Dont know about Cork but am pretty sure that the SAR contract is due to be tendered fairly soon

CVR 21st Jul 2009 20:29

Yes the contract has been awarded to Bond, they are going to operate EC135's to the Kinsale field. Another loss to CHC, one wonders how many more they can take.

doorstopper 21st Jul 2009 20:42

Interesting point CVR, if true then they do seem to be losing a fair few. Is it due to First Reserve i wonder?

Hoppit 21st Jul 2009 21:13


they do seem to be losing a fair few
Seem to be loosing all of them!

Had a quick look at CHC's website and the last contract award that I can find for the UK was July 2006 for an S92 out of Abz for Apache. SAR interim contract was Dec 2005.

Top marks for the commercial departrment! :D

griffothefog 22nd Jul 2009 03:28

Does that mean Marathon are agreeing to go back to single pilot ops. There is a significant amount of IFR flying required on that contract, and I do mean IFR down to the vinegar strokes on minima's :eek:

So much for safety if that's the case :{

Pink Panther 22nd Jul 2009 07:38

I undrstand it won't be SPIFR.I would be very surprisd if the IAA signed off on that one :}.

griffothefog 22nd Jul 2009 12:59

Multi-pilot ops in a 135... Err... How does that work ???? :E

rufus.t.firefly 22nd Jul 2009 13:06

Should be cosy with 5 in the back ! :hmm:

walesuk 22nd Jul 2009 13:14

if you can even get 5 in the back with the available payload.

slyguy 23rd Jul 2009 13:07

so blackpool then??
 
Ok,

we know cork has gone, whats the news on blackpool then??

bolkow 24th Jul 2009 14:13

Bond in cork
 
from what I have seen of the Irish helicopters EC135T2+ boot space or rather lack of it is an issue. I may be wrong but I believe there was even talk about putting a panel in and making it a 5 seater to try to get more boot space. Cant imagine a 135 doing the rigs? Maybe they mean a 145?

ScotiaQ 24th Jul 2009 14:19

Bond in Cork
 
No....EC 135T2 it is.

pumaboy 24th Jul 2009 16:44

Sure it is not EC155 cant see EC135 doing the rigs

Then again I could well be wrong

TeeS 24th Jul 2009 16:53

After all, it's not as if we used to 'do the rigs' in Bo105's is it :)

TeeS

Oh, and Griff, we find it works best with one in the left seat and one in the right seat :D

rufus.t.firefly 24th Jul 2009 18:00

Just means the customer will probably have to fly more with a max of 5 !

Distances aren't great but given that Cork spends alot of time in fog - at least thats what I've been told , plenty of IFR practice and diversion fuel then.

Stick in a couple of liferafts , and all the extra gubbins required by the oil companies for offshore fit and it will be a nice cosy fit:eek::eek:

bolkow 24th Jul 2009 22:26

cork
 
I well remember when the Bell 212 operated those rigs and some days it did multiple trips to the kinsale oilfield which I understand may only lie 40 miles offshore, but I think an ec135 will be doing multiple flights where a medium size chopper would halve the flight time. So its a chc EC135 then? I wonder if its going to be a new build.

Heliboater 25th Jul 2009 08:27

Cork
 
Could the new machine at Eurocopter be for this, HEOI, (Helicopter Offshore Ireland), just a thought.....

HillerBee 25th Jul 2009 10:12


I well remember when the Bell 212 operated those rigs and some days it did multiple trips to the kinsale oilfield which I understand may only lie 40 miles offshore, but I think an ec135 will be doing multiple flights where a medium size chopper would halve the flight time. So its a chc EC135 then? I wonder if its going to be a new build.
Which medium sized helicopter is twice as fast as an EC135??????

HOGE 25th Jul 2009 10:51

Which medium sized helicopter is twice as fast as an EC135??????

Airwolf....

Airwolf (helicopter) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:}

walesuk 25th Jul 2009 14:00


Which medium sized helicopter is twice as fast as an EC135??????
I think the point was that a medium sized helicopter can often do in one trip what the EC135 will take in two trips.

Greeny9 25th Jul 2009 16:17

Aahh, the American grasp on humour still as active as ever!!

HillerBee 25th Jul 2009 16:59

If Bond decides to use an EC135 it won't be because it's more expensive is it!? It's a numbers game and Bond is very good at that.

Droopy 25th Jul 2009 19:35

So have Bond - or anybody else for that matter - actually made a verifiable announcement?

slyguy 28th Jul 2009 14:09

no announcement
 
Still no announcements yet!!

perhaps they are waiting to see if the big CHC machine goes on strike, yeah like that will ever happen.

Somebody must have heard by now!

Greeny9 28th Jul 2009 14:16

Decision delayed again apparantly!

nightjar1 3rd Aug 2009 18:08

Maybe >Official< but do BOND have the goods to supply a service ??
From the rumours around they have no N3's to do anything :(
Same old, same old,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Pink Panther 3rd Aug 2009 19:19

Also, I understand Bond kick off in Cork from 1st Jan 2010 with an EC 135, two pilot IFR operation.

bondu 3rd Aug 2009 19:55

nightjar,

Bond have three/four 365N3s on order. Rumour has it that another Aberdeen operator will be fitting the TCAS systems into the aircraft for Bond in the near future.

bondu

Paddyviking 3rd Aug 2009 20:09

Speaking with someone in CHC last week and confirms what
Pink Panther just posted :ok:

Pv

Greeny9 4th Aug 2009 06:43

Bond do not have the goods!!
They have approached CHC to continue using the N2 on the Leman platform until June/July next year and are trying to lease the two CHC N3s in Canada to put into BPL. Short term until they get theirs from EC!

nightjar1 4th Aug 2009 07:48

This all seams very strange to me that Bond have to go to Chc to supply Heli's,
Does it then make sense to approach Chc about leasing the 365 that is already in place at Cork ?

Greeny9 4th Aug 2009 08:49

It is what used to be G-BKXD and is very close to a 'G' check! Very expensive and takes some time! Given the performance of the Ns single engine with the new rules coming in I would be surprised if the 'G' check gets done.

nightjar1 4th Aug 2009 11:19

BondU

With N3's only on order can you explain what you mean by >>near future<< :confused:
Is there any date set as and when the first 365n3 will be delivered?

bondu 4th Aug 2009 18:49

Nightjar,

No idea of timings - just something I heard last week from a very reliable source. If I find out when, I'll let you know.

bondu

heli1 5th Aug 2009 07:30

The full story is apparently in today's HeliData News if anyone is interested....Contract details ,aircraft delivery dates,the lot
Unfortunately at £200.00 a year I can't afford the subscription !

nightjar1 12th Aug 2009 10:10

The crew's from both of these bases ? Does TUPE apply ?
And if so has it been put in place ?


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