Coastguard airlift
 

Reported in Aberdeen P&J that BP Helio from Miller was called to airlift yesterday (21st) an injured Skipper from a fishing vessel,but that it was a Coastguard Helio that actualy did the lift.

Anyone got any news why the Jigsaw A/C didnt do it?.

crud12001

Jigsaw is an AS332L2, right? If so, they are grounded again - see Eurocopter Press release

Press def says BP Rescue chopper attended first!

BBC NEWS | Scotland | North East/N Isles | Skipper with broken leg rescued

strange comment at the end

I heard that the jigsaw puma arrived on scene, but couldn't carry out the winch because the boat was too small (50ft), and tried to get the local RSV to take the cas off so the aircraft could winch off the bigger deck, obviously the CG didn't like that and sent R102.

Does this mean that Jigsaw are unable to 'cut the mustard' when it comes to SAR jobs? Or was this job a significant departure from that which they are contracted/trained for?

One of the Bond Jigsaw aircraft has been flying since 20 April after checks. There was a rumour going around that the Jigsaw aircraft had been stopped entirely by BP, but was probably more likely down to the grounding by EASA.

TTFD

Just waiting for Crab to visit this thread...:uhoh:

An intriguing story - could have been as simple as equipment failure on the Puma - I'm sure the truth will out.

Seems as though it might be a similar case to that of the Puma ditching (the non-fatal one) which was a 'SAR' captain's first shift who couldn't keep a hover within a few metres and a rearcrew who couldn't get two casualties into the cabin at once and had to return them to the water.

It is strange because I know of at least one very experienced SAR operator who went to Jigsaw -where has the capability gone or has it all been a box-ticking exercise to meet the terms of the contract?

There are at least 2 ex 203 Sqn QHIs and 1 ex 202 Sqn pilot on Jigsaw.

Perhaps it goes to show that if you don't spend a lot of money on continuation training then even the best suffer skill fade. To paraphrase an old cliche,'you are only as good as your last rescue'.

Anyway, in this case I'm sure it is just supposition.

CD

I heard that the jigsaw aircraft does not have a switch for the pilot to operate the hoist. I can see how that may cause a problem as the winch-op needs both hands to pull in survivors at the door.

Detgnome - well it clearly wasn't any of those 3 on either job then, what is the experience level like with the rest of the Captains?

Moose - that was flatly denied when I raised it on an earlier thread but there is an old saying about smoke and fire.......

MFV Sunlight Ray
 

Photo of the vessel in question

www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/showfull.php?photo=46130

Crab
 

Detgnome - well it clearly wasn't any of those 3 on either job then,

Crab, why was it clearly!!! not one of them

Bounce bounce - anyone with proper SAR captaincy experience would have little problem dealing with either personnel in the water or a 50' deck, day or night unless the aircraft doesn't have the right kit or the rearcrew are not trained.

Why is it that every time Crab arrives on the thread it turns into a bitch fest!

Bond couldn't do it. Coastgaurd did end of story. And it wasn't an equipment failure.

Wiretensioner.

Because Crab asks questions that are uncomfortable for those involved. Which is why they round on him. So can somebody tell us why the Jigsaw aircraft didn't do the rescue?

CD

Bond couldn't do it.
 

Do you know why and can you share the information?