Depends on the alcohol percentage

Sorry I have not got back sooner Wiley, yep it is a shame can't fit the bike in the back of the porshe, get's in the way of the fillipino girls :}

And no not messing around simond, that's what we generally earn at the current exchange rate in the middle east for the military training. :eek:

Messing around! I wish he was, as a friend recently said 'he landed his arse in the buter with that one!'
But then mecenaries have always historically been well paid types;), I'd have said the only thing he's telling porkies about is the Porsche, Fluffers in a Porsche....christ Miss Daisy drives quicker than he does!

I will second that, pathetically slow is what I would call it, a steady jog would keep up :)

CF

Does Fluffy come from Norfolk then? :}

Cheers

Whirls

whirly,

in a former life I have the honour of having taught fluffy to fly :eek:

but not in norfolk

CF

5 years on, is it still £40-£50? or has inflation finally set in?

Depends on the operator, the 'largest' paid 40 an hour for FI work, 50 for public transport a year ago, I believe a near London competitor on the same airfield paid more, maybe 70 for the FI work... Have things changed? Possibly a straw poll of current rates?

I think it's quite hard to recommend it as a career unless the punter can afford both an IR and an FI rating if they don't get picked up by a major.

VFR in Western Canada on piston aircraft...$90/hr, turbine....$100/hr, IFR.....110/hr.
Easy to fly 6-8 hrs a day 5 days a week.

Thats for a Class 1 H56. You can start at $65ph as a Class 4 and add $10 an hour for Class 3, Class2 respectively.
Thats also all you get. No retainer or salary and thats before tax.
Better than most places for sure though.

It's what I get paid with my class 3....I just do fill in on my time off crane!!!!!

I am amazed operators are still getting away with paying peanuts to Flight Instructors.

Why on earth hasn't the pay gone up since the 80's? Some instructing work is easy, some is bloody dangerous! I know the guys just want their hours but that shouldn't mean working for a wage that doesn't even pay off the cost of training.

I was lucky, I did the FI rating on a PPL(H) and then went on to CPL. The guys these days have a hell of a lot of outlay to be able to whip around the circuit in a Robinson.

Instructor Pay
 

Unfortunately instructor pay has been stagnant for far too long, largely because there are always new instructors prepared to work for peanuts just to get a foot in the door.
Some of the less reputable flying schools out there are not paying restricted instructors at all, expecting them to work, just to get to their upgrade. This is a disgrace and a black mark on our industry.
Good instructors are hard to find but unfortunately the economics of helicopter training means that no-one makes enough money be they the school, the helicopter owner or the instructor.
We pay £48 per hour to restricted instructors, probably one of the highest hourly rates in the country but of which I am still ashamed considering what they have invested. We still find it hard to attract good instructors. Anyone looking can PM me.

I'm curious about the state of this today. Any FI(H) pilots out there who can put a word in? It's been just shy of 5 years since the last post.

no update needed, sadly instructors pay is still the same as 5 years ago :ugh:

Instructor Pay rates
 

Sadly when I look back, I see my hourly flying instruction rate in 1997 was £45/hr with ground school instruction provided by me for free. This is the same now some 22 years later, hence I now prefer to charge for my time on a day rate basis whenever I can.

In the Australian case, minimum salaries and conditions of employment all set out in law.

https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/doc...f/ma000046.pdf

Last time I was doing it, the pay worked out to be around $580 per flying hour, and not counting the interminable hours giving ground school or sitting behind the students in the sim. If I tried to count all that time, it would probably come down to about $70 per hour for a 9-hr day and 4 weeks leave per year.