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2001ft 26th Oct 2008 09:24

Operating under another AOC
 
Hi all

Wonder if you could help?

If I have my own helicopter, and I am a CPL(H) I either pay £16k to the CAA per annum and have additional tests etc to be able to start my own business and carry fare paying passengers...

or....

I could operate under somebody elses AOC??? How much would that cost? Is it just up to me to negotiate?

Would I still be able to fly as a CPL(H) under that "borrowed" AOC?

Trying to put together my future plans!

Thanks

Martin Barclay 26th Oct 2008 10:17

I believe the suggestion in the past has been to buy the business which operates the AOC rather than create your own due to the time and hurdles involved. However there are those on the forum who can help with the production of the documentation and you retail full control via this route. In the grand scheme of operating any kind of helicopter business £16K is not a lot of money....

Some businesses do operate under borrowed AOC's but they do tend to be looked down on and resented by those who have spent time and money following the established route.

hostile 26th Oct 2008 11:43

Operating under "borrowed" AOC?

You don't operate under nothing. AOC owner operates your aircraft and you are on their pilot. All responsibility are in AOC owner. If you have a good idea for make a money with your A/C, some operator might hire you. That's the way it is now a days.

Hostile:ok:

misterbonkers 26th Oct 2008 17:57

In the UK there is loads of information on the caa's website on what can and can't be and how to go about establishing an aoc, costs etc.

If you're considering getting an r44 there is a different type of A-B AOC that allows you to operate one piston engined aircraft UK mainland only for pleasure flying and charter work - its a lot cheaper than the other one (circa 2000 per annum).

MK10 26th Oct 2008 18:04

AOC
 
"2001ft" P.M me, I can certainly point you in the direction of an AOC you could "work" under,

Mk10

ChippyChop 26th Oct 2008 20:31

Hey there 2001!! I don't understand one minute you are a PPL with 87 hours on a 44 now you are a CPL.

You sure work fast!!

2001ft 26th Oct 2008 20:39

"If I have my own helicopter, and I am a CPL(H) "

as the thread says, I am making plans....

Bravo73 26th Oct 2008 20:40

Cut him some slack, Chippy. And try reading his post properly next time:


Originally Posted by 2001ft (Post 4484494)
If I have my own helicopter, and I am a CPL(H)...

(My emphasis).

It's a big word, that 'if'... :rolleyes:

Whirlygig 26th Oct 2008 20:41

2001 doesn't say he or she holds a CPL but IF etc etc....


If I have my own helicopter, and I am a CPL(H)
Cheers

Whirls

Bravo73 26th Oct 2008 20:44

(Wow. That's a triple http://www.mtorque.co.uk/ubbthreads/...t/10_1_114.giffor Chippy.)

ChippyChop 27th Oct 2008 08:25

Well I guess I should consider myself privileged to be chastised by such pprune legends!! My English isn't that good, where I come from if a sentence states I am a CPL(H), then that is how I read it.

I agree it states If I have my own helicopter but it doesn't say "and if I am a CPL(H)"

I don't think I was the only one who misinterpreted the statement, sounds like MK10 thought it was current as he was offering an AOC to operate under!!

Many apologies 2001 and good luck with your plans.


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