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exlatccatsa 28th Jul 2008 09:30

Aberdeen Scotland to Broome Australia
 
As I write this GZZSO a Bristows EC225 (ER) is being readied for a marathon ferry trip from Aberdeen To Broome. The first leg to Norwich starts today.
I believe its a minimum of 30 days and 70 hours flying hopefully without problems. Could this be a world record ferry?
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...ZOSEC225ER.jpg

kwikenz 28th Jul 2008 09:54

Isnt it only flying under its own steam to Malta and thence via transporter to Aussy to swap out with a 332?

Fareastdriver 28th Jul 2008 09:55

No. Bristows did it donkey's years ago with a Wessex.

Heliringer 28th Jul 2008 11:43

That's a long ferry. You would want to have a good book with you!

topendtorque 28th Jul 2008 12:24

I tell you what, the crew have my admiration. Koepang to Broome in mid winter, possibly facing a stiff sou-easter. no nav-aids of much consequence other than NDB's.
and then they tool of another couple of hundred nautical down to karratha which back then should have meant a medal to even go there.

P2bleed 28th Jul 2008 12:41

WX60 out S61 back
 
Possibly a record where one Oz pilot flew a W60 from Oz to Redhill (UK) and returned in a S61 from Aberdeen to Karratha. :ok:

AdamFrisch 28th Jul 2008 12:49

30 days for 70hrs of flying time... What on earth - 2 hours of flying each day and then 10 hours tea break?

At least 6-8hrs should be well within the realm of possibilities to do daily.

Bootneck 28th Jul 2008 14:04

Or the ferry pilot who turned up in Miri with a Puma claiming to have saved the company loads by staying at basic hotels, pushing on in order to complete in 10 days etc etc. Brurry iriot.

Troglodita 28th Jul 2008 14:15

AdamFrisch
 
Dear Adam,

Between Blighty and Down Under (and let's not forget Africa!) ther are lots of Countries inhabited by poor people who have never heard of Political Correctness or the USA SEC or Codes of Business Integrity. They work at Airports for Immigration, Customs, ATC Clearances, Fire Services, Air Traffic Controllers etc. for a very small salary. They don't have very much in life in the way of material things but they do have POWER!
They decide when you can leave!

If your Company fills your pockets with non accountable used notes, it can be possible to achieve the 6 - 8 hours a day as you speculate by "taking care" of all these people but even in the halcyon days when this was the norm, it still wasn't unusual to get "trapped in Tamanrasset" or "banged up in Bombay" until your onward clearance was miraculously "found" or the Fire Service decided that they would work on the Public Holiday tomorrow (declared by them!) if you paid their overtime.

Amazingly very few Helicopters seem to go U/S in these awful places - that always seems to happen in Bangkok or Bali.

I would agree that 30 days seems a bit excessive but we must remember that these North Sea boys will need lots of OFF days if not a small leave if they are to remain compliant with CAP 437 :yuk:

Troglodita 28th Jul 2008 14:23

Bootneck
 
Well said!

If the hotel didn't have five stars it wasn't good enough for a Bristow Ferry Pilot on his £7.75 a day Ferry Allowance (Why did the Engineers get £15.50?)

A ex Cavalry Chap did similar cheapskate deal on a run to Nigeria but he was too dim to suss out that by not "dashing" all and sundry en route he took 18 days rather than the normal 6 or 7 and the Company lost 11 plus days of Helicopter day rates as a consequence.

another Brurry Iriot!

Senior Pilot 28th Jul 2008 15:20

Dave Whyte and Peter Manketelow took an S61 from Exmouth to Shannon in 11 days (including a day off) and 105 flying hours. Post #25, why would Bristow be planning 30 days for a faster aircraft, much the same distance :confused:

biggles99 28th Jul 2008 20:34

UK to OZ
 
Did this in 1999 in a R44.

No ground support.

4 hours over the Timor Sea was very soul searching, especially as our ferry tanks weren't working so well.......

Pretty sure I was the first person to do this in a single piston heli or even any single engine heli?

Big Ls.

Bootneck 28th Jul 2008 20:53

Good try Biggles. :E:D

90/816 Aircraft, full-size, helicopter, Bell 206B Jetranger III, "Dick Smith Australian Explorer", VH-DIK, Dick Smith, USA/Australia, 1982, S/N 3653 - Powerhouse Museum Collection

exlatccatsa 28th Jul 2008 20:59

Just found this on the Scotavnets website today.

Not long departed from Aberdeen to Malta is EC225LP G-ZZSO, although I do not know what route is being taken. It is going to Malta
to meet a Belfast which will then take it the rest of the way to Australia. For those with Mode S it is using Hex code 405B98

Bravo73 28th Jul 2008 21:09


Originally Posted by exlatccatsa (Post 4294961)
Just found this on the Scotavnets website today.

Not long departed from Aberdeen to Malta is EC225LP G-ZZSO, although I do not know what route is being taken. It is going to Malta to meet a Belfast which will then take it the rest of the way to Australia.

What, one of these? :eek:

http://img6.travelblog.org/Photos/46...-Belfast-0.jpg


Are any of them still flying? :confused:

biggles99 28th Jul 2008 21:11

ahh, Bootneck.

i'll settle for first piston then.

one question: do you know whether Dick started in the UK, ended in Oz, and flew only in this JR between start and finish? I had heard he did it in stages, with flights home to Oz in a more normal mode at various times?

Big Ls

Lt.Fubar 28th Jul 2008 21:12

Wouldn't it be cheaper and faster to put it on a ship ?

OzPax1 28th Jul 2008 21:23

Bravo73...check this link mate....HeavyLift Cargo Airlines

:ok:

zalt 28th Jul 2008 22:01

What is the coffin / surf board lump on G-ZZSO RHS under the logo?

SASless 28th Jul 2008 22:17

Single Piston?

Sounds like a clunky sort of thing to me!

Some shrimp boats I sail about have those kinds of engines...."ka thunka....ka thunka....ka thunka...ka thunka". Granted their single piston looks like a thirty gallon oil drum.


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