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Flag Track 18th Jun 2008 15:36

Pumas flying with only one engine fitted?
 
Heard yonks ago that the Portuguese/Egyptians/Indonesians (Add nationality to taste) had only one donk with a concrete block on't other side as ballast. Is this an urban myth or spoof?

ShyTorque 18th Jun 2008 17:31

You mean the story about the request to the RAF, from the Portugese, for the loan of a spare engine? So they could make it twin engined to fly the Pope?

Never heard it....... ;)

spinwing 19th Jun 2008 02:36

Mmmmmm `....

"A load of bollocks"

:E

VfrpilotPB/2 19th Jun 2008 07:54

Seems like Spinwing has it in a Nutshell!!.....:D

jayteeto 19th Jun 2008 08:53

I know an ex-AAC pilot who joined the RAF, starting one engine and failing to get the second started. He completed his task on one engine...... or was that a rumour also.... ;)

Salusa 19th Jun 2008 10:02

Bit like the OH-6 Pilot in Vietnam who had one blade shot up on the ground decided to remove its oppo and then flew out on just two blades.

Maybe the same guy graduated onto Puma's?

the beater 19th Jun 2008 10:25

Maybe the same guy graduated onto Puma's?

Puma's what?

darrenphughes 19th Jun 2008 11:00


Maybe the same guy graduated onto Puma's?

Puma's what?
Did you just pick up on the fact that he used an apostrophe where he shouldn't have? Thats just plain picky!!!:hmm:

Robbo Jock 19th Jun 2008 11:05


Thats just plain picky
I think you'll find it's "that's" :}

bolkow 19th Jun 2008 11:48

I am sure its perfectly true and contrary top popular perception probably increases engine power by 50% over just having its original two engines fitted in place of the concrete on one side.:ugh::ugh:

affluent boss 19th Jun 2008 12:16

Robbo Jock, A taxi Driver in Southampton was recently denied the renewal of his taxi Driver's permit because his spelling in the English language was not very good. I wonder if your relations work for the Southampton Council.

oldbeefer 19th Jun 2008 13:01

.........................................

spinwing 19th Jun 2008 13:02

Mmmmmmm ....

What we did used to do in Pumas on Loooooooong Ferry flights is "Idle" one donk (or if you were brave/silly enough shut it down) to improve the sfc for increased endurance ...perhaps this is what is being alluded too ????

:eek:

darrenphughes 19th Jun 2008 13:22


I think you'll find it's "that's" :}
Alright, you got me there. You can't expect an Irish guy to have a proper grasp of the English language!! I'm gonna stop typing now for fear of making more mistakes!!:(

Robbo Jock 19th Jun 2008 13:37

Sorry. Just couldn't resist! :)

HeliComparator 19th Jun 2008 17:02

spinwing, if you idle one engine your sfc is far worse than on 2 engines. The only option if you are short of fuel is to shut it down (pref climb to a height at which you would have time to restart it in auto!)

HC

ShyTorque 19th Jun 2008 19:28

I concur that idling one engine for extra endurance is false logic. All the fuel into the idling engine goes to waste running the compressor and accessories and certainly with a Turmo that's a lot of fuel wasted, especially as the alternators run off the MGB anyway. :=

Single engined flight can be more efficient, certainly for endurance but possibly not for a transit, subject to the prevailing wind (the reduced max IAS results in a longer airborne time).

ericferret 20th Jun 2008 16:12

Many years ago a Bond BO 105 lost an engine while engaged on lighthouse work and ended up marooned on the helideck. The crew of one pilot and one engineer gutted the aircraft of everything it was possible to remove and flew off single engined.

Raised a lot of eyebrows and questions were asked in the house but it worked.

ShyTorque 20th Jun 2008 18:59

Once had to ferry a Puma single engine from Caye Chapel, Belize back to Airport camp. Of course, we needed to get the AOC's permission to do it. But that was very easy as he was one of those marooned on the island.

It never officially came out in the wash but every RAF pilot, SH and Harrier, was at the barbeque on the island so everyone was stuck there. The Bona mates (all of them) had arrived at the party by speedboat but the steering gear broke as they tried to leave and the boat would only go round in circles. They were authorised for a lift back in the Puma but then one of the engines wouldn't start.... :O

We came back in the dark with a two engined one and everyone got home eventually. ;)

topendtorque 21st Jun 2008 12:34


A taxi Driver in Southampton was recently denied the renewal of his taxi Driver's permit because his spelling in the English language was not very good. I wonder if your relations work for the Southampton Council.
Reminds me of an Indian sounding gentleman that I spoke to recently whilst reporting a problem with my - other - telephone.

you may all have spoken to him as well.

It seems he got his job by suitably responding to the question, Now saah, please compose a sentence with the words green, pink and yellow in it?

The rest, you should know.


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