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KNIEVEL77 15th Apr 2008 21:01

Any scope for earnings with a PPL(H)?
 
Just out of interest, is there any scope at all for earning money with just a PPL(H)?

Bravo73 15th Apr 2008 21:05

You could technically be employed as a 'corporate' pilot with just a PPL(H).

But any sensible owner is going to insist on so much experience that you might as well have a CPL or ATPL to go along with that TT.

So in essence, 'no'.

Whirlygig 15th Apr 2008 21:06

For PPL holders, I believe there are exemptions for towing gliders and dropping parachutists. Er .....

That'd be a "no" then!!

Cheers

Whirls

cyclic flare 15th Apr 2008 21:20

It wont be long before we are back to PPL's doing instructor ratings.

There are some very experienced PPL instructors out there

flap flap flap 15th Apr 2008 21:31

Great, just what FIs who jumped through the CPL/ATPL hoops need to drive their meagre earnings/status even lower.

Whirlygig 15th Apr 2008 21:33

A PPL can be an instructor now; just won't get paid for it! :}

Cheers

Whirls

Bravo73 15th Apr 2008 21:39


Originally Posted by Whirlygig (Post 4050719)
A PPL can be an instructor now; just won't get paid for it!

And it looks like it might stay that way. The only upcoming change is dropping the requirement to pass CPL theory exams.

Anyway, to be a PPL instructor, you still need 250hrs before you can take the FIC course. Which, I'm guessing, defeats the purpose of knievel's original enquiry.

206Fan 15th Apr 2008 22:03


Just out of interest, is there any scope at all for earning money with just a PPL(H)?
If that was the case we would have an exceeding amount of youngsters flying around in R22s/44s... Probably including myself :E

heli-mad 16th Apr 2008 07:11

EASA
 
I think i read somewhere that when EASA takes over they are looking to change to the old PPL/FI system. Correct me if i am wrong but you were taking some exams if you had ppl and 300h(?) to become an instructor.

Now days FI is a rating in your CPL not a license as it used to be. Older instructors might be able to clarify more.

To answer the original question....PPL earning money..NO, it took me a few year and a CPL to start earning so i think it would be unfair :(

rotorspin 16th Apr 2008 08:27

yep.

you need to go online and buy a white shirt with 3 gold stripes.

walk around the airfield like you own it, wear dark shades and fly passengers in return for cash....

why not, every other PPL seems to do it? Why waste your money on that CPL thing? :}

Jack Plug 16th Apr 2008 10:51


you need to go online and buy a white shirt with 3 gold stripes.
Heh,heh.


I was taught by a PPL(H) qfi who's still teaching, still making money. I would have done the same thing but I got one of the first JAR licenses so not possible. No way I was going to do a cpl just to teach. I wonder how may potential instructors have been put off by this?

Whirlygig 16th Apr 2008 14:27


why not, every other PPL seems to do it?
Really? :suspect: Do you mean "every other" as in every PPL except the OP or "every other" as in alternate as in 50%? Either way, that's a tad harsh (as well as being incorrect) on all those who do play it by the rules.

Did you not have your full quota of tea this morning?! :}

Cheers

Whirls

R.OCKAPE 16th Apr 2008 15:56

Go and do you CPL like the rest of us

Camp Freddie 16th Apr 2008 16:08

helimad,


Now days FI is a rating in your CPL not a license as it used to be. Older instructors might be able to clarify more.

err no thats not right the FI was never a licence it was always a rating, under the national system up to 2000, you could get an instructor rating added to a PPL and earn money, if you had 200 hours P1 and did the instructor course.

since JAR this route is no longer available, but existing holders keep it and the right to be paid as grandfather rights.

whirlygig,


And it looks like it might stay that way. The only upcoming change is dropping the requirement to pass CPL theory exams.
out of interest can you give me a link to that information written down somewhere


regards

CF

Bravo73 16th Apr 2008 16:33


Originally Posted by Camp Freddie (Post 4052585)
whirlygig,

Out of interest can you give me a link to that information written down somewhere
regards

CF

CF,

I think it might've been me who said that. My only source, I'm afraid, is a thread from the instructors forum:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=321589

The opening post does reference FTN though.


HTH

Camp Freddie 16th Apr 2008 16:41

Bravo73,

thanks found it FTN website

it does imply all PPL instructors but it may only be for aeroplanes until its a done deal you never know

regards

CF

helimutt 16th Apr 2008 16:56


err no thats not right the FI was never a licence it was always a rating, under the national system up to 2000, you could get an instructor rating added to a PPL and earn money, if you had 200 hours P1 and did the instructor course.

At 200 hours you could do a pre entry flight test with an FIC and some written exams for FI course entry. If you didnt pass that I think you had to do more hours but seem to recall it was 250 hours before starting FI course under old system.


The blind leading the blind?

PPrude1234 16th Apr 2008 19:13

Just out of interest, is there any scope at all for earning money with just a PPL(H)?

McDonalds???????

KNIEVEL77 16th Apr 2008 19:24

In 2005 there were 2525 registered PPL(H) Holders, so now in 2008 let's say there are maybe 2800+, does that mean that they are ALL just flying for pleasure?

KNIEVEL77 16th Apr 2008 19:39

Vital Actions,

So perhaps most of them do it as an accomplishment then let their PPL(H) lapse?

Thats an expensive way to satisfy your ambition!

K77.


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