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tophelios 14th Apr 2008 05:27

Just my point of view as a SAR capt (flying a 4 axis as365n3):
- 3 axis is enough for 90 % (95%..) of the sar missions,
- SAR version of ec 225 (japanese coast guartd for exemple) is for me the top of the SAR chopper,
- 4 axis on a chopper is an option that cost at least 1 million euro more...
- 1 SAr ec 225 = 2,5 as 365 n3 (in term of price)
- 1 SAr ec 225 = 1,8 a 139...
- don't know about the s92...
Then , a lot of things being considered... not just our pilots point of view....

HAL9000 14th Apr 2008 07:30

It is easy to lose sight of the real issues once the bickering starts.

Why is the MCA allowed to get away with headlining grabbing statements about the new aircraft being more capable than the old when they patently are not?

It is not just a matter of opinion about subjective aircraft handling characteristics but performance figures from the relevant documents.

SARCO 14th Apr 2008 09:14

HAL9000

I don't know what your beef is with the MCA but it is getting tiring, if you have a complaint why not make it to them instead of banging on about it here, you stand more of a chance getting a reply from the MCA or DfT than you will here.

ASV 14th Apr 2008 14:29

I have a question ..

Who control the flir camera on the 139 the front crew or they have observer on the back ?

Rescue1 14th Apr 2008 15:41

Winchop/man in the back;)

Vie sans frontieres 14th Apr 2008 15:55

If there's enough space for him!;) Word is the Sproule Net may be making a comeback to free up a bit of cabin space.

Lost at Sea 14th Apr 2008 23:53


Why is the MCA allowed to get away with headlining grabbing statements about the new aircraft being more capable than the old when they patently are not?
Because they're learning very quickly from the RAF! :E

And let's face it the MOD were the expert advice/consultants on the interim SAR contract! :eek:

Now my question, why does the RAF have headlining grabbing statements every 10 years about being 80 or 90 years old when the Navy and Army who must be over 1000 years old don't bother. Is it because the senior service and the army don't have an inferiority complex? ;)

ASV 15th Apr 2008 09:40

is it possible to control the camera form the front or not ??????????:sad:

MyTarget 15th Apr 2008 13:26

In the 92 you can't control the camera from the front, but you can view the picture from the flir thou.....So i think 139 is the same!:)

SARowl 15th Apr 2008 15:06

More Photos
 
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...l/P1010016.jpg

The crew for the first shift.


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...l/P1010014.jpg

A new IJ and an old IJ.


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...Rowl/IJWB1.jpg

The last time the South Coast S61's were together

Pofman 15th Apr 2008 15:25

VSF If you ever used a Sproule Net you would not want it back. It takes up a lot of room, was awkward to handle and in anything apart from calm seas needed skill and lots of practice. Good for bloated dead bodies though but you still have to bring it in for transit.

ASV 15th Apr 2008 16:47

Thanks MyTarget for reply, so i can't control it from the front :ugh::ugh::ugh:

any 139 pilot can give more info :{

ShyTorque 15th Apr 2008 16:53


The crew for the first shift.
Look, it's so small they've even had to get smaller crew members! :E

Aser 15th Apr 2008 18:59

ASV there is a console in the back, but you can see the flir in the screen in the front, so you just need to grab the joystick from the back to play.

ExSAR 29th Jul 2008 06:57

ExSAR
 
Doing some research on FLIR systems for a fleet of new AW139s to be operated in the SAR role in the Gulf. Grateful for any information on which FLIR system is fitted to the HM Coastguard AW139s? Thanks

leopold bloom 29th Jul 2008 08:39

Flir - HM CG
 
I believe the FLIR fit is the Wescam MX - 15i.:ok:

ExSAR 29th Jul 2008 08:46

LB - many thanks for the info.

C4 29th Jul 2008 17:51

How is A.D. Bill?:ugh:


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