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pilot751 8th Apr 2013 18:58

Firefighting Portugal
 
They obviously couldnt win it!!!
In order to presente they offer in the tender the companies had to attach to their proposal the flight manual of 25 helicopters. With this the portuguese government had the guarantee that the companies had helis to operate.
However, Everjets thought they were smarter and falsified 23 flight manual.
One technical acessor of the portuguese government have already proved it by a visit that he done to one of the companies that Everjets used the flight manual (FM).
Also 8 of 9 companies that Everjets used the FM said that they have never heard about Everjets nor his operation Director José Pereira!
The Consortium made this public and now the tender is still suspended.
However since the owner of Everjets is a good friend of the Minister of the government that decides, no one knows what is going to happen...
Sure is that Everjets, ahs at this point only 4 machines when they have to present in onde and a half months 25.
Lets see what happens...:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

hueyracer 8th Apr 2013 20:21

There are more than enough companies in Europe (more or less desperatly) trying to find work for their helicopters....they are surely more than happy to lease them out to any portugese company (that pays in advance, of course.....we all know about the financial reliability of some portugese companies in the past...)

TheHeliFreak 8th Apr 2013 21:28


How could a startup company out of nowhere that appears to only have one single dauphin on G registry could win against a consortium of 4 experienced and well established operators?
I guess because some of the people on the startup company have the experience necessary. If you had the time to search for the Dauphin, you could also search for, and I quote:

operation Director José Pereira!
Google will give you some answers. :8

Also, I guess, that in order to have that kind of operation the Aviation Authority must approve the operation first. That and some millions less in the contract I guess.


They obviously couldnt win it!!!
In order to presente they offer in the tender the companies had to attach to their proposal the flight manual of 25 helicopters. With this the portuguese government had the guarantee that the companies had helis to operate.
However, Everjets thought they were smarter and falsified 23 flight manual.
One technical acessor of the portuguese government have already proved it by a visit that he done to one of the companies that Everjets used the flight manual (FM).
Also 8 of 9 companies that Everjets used the FM said that they have never heard about Everjets nor his operation Director José Pereira!
The Consortium made this public and now the tender is still suspended.
However since the owner of Everjets is a good friend of the Minister of the government that decides, no one knows what is going to happen...
Sure is that Everjets, ahs at this point only 4 machines when they have to present in onde and a half months 25.
Lets see what happens...
It seems you know a lot. Guess that's why the "Ru" in this forum title. A lot of the information you posted here is incorrect. But I let you figure that out by yourself.

Love this forum. :p By the way, first time here, first round on me. :ok:

Regards.

jhsh 26th May 2013 18:31

good remark !! the answer is that HP did not loose the tender, they are waiting for decision of tribunal !

Ready2Fly 4th Jun 2013 08:27

The decision was made May, 28th, wasn't it?

nowherespecial 5th Jan 2016 07:58

I heard a rumour just now that HP have gone bankrupt (again). Can't find anything on google but lets be honest, my Portuguese isn't what it was...

Anyone else heard that their crews haven't been paid? Bad news for the people flying and maintaining, doing their best but it seems the mgmt team are rather less scrupulous than they could be from reading this thread.

Anyone else heard similar?

Self loading bear 5th Jan 2016 20:38

Portugese
 

Originally Posted by nowherespecial (Post 9228773)
my Portuguese isn't what it used to be

NWS,
Look at it from the bright side:
Your Portugese is probably as good as it used to be 😃😃😃
And certainly will match or exceed my excellence.

If the rumour is true I feel sorry for employees involved.

SLB

SFIM 6th Jan 2016 07:47

the website at http://www.heliportugal.pt/hp/
has just said "available soon" for weeks, doesnt bode well

nowherespecial 6th Jan 2016 08:39

SLB, all I can say is thank the lord for the mercy of Google translate....

Sad times for all concerned. Found an article saying that one of their major creditors had forgiven part of their debts from September 2015 but nothing since.

SFIM, yes indeed it does and their parent company, UHS isn't much use either.

jhsh 10th Aug 2016 15:29

HP is not doing that bad, other companies are in trouble too, crisis ! The company is waiting for the payment from the trial they won (around 20millions€) not really the fault of the managers ! ;)

VEMD 10th Aug 2016 16:14

josh::= Mmmmmmh why I don't believe you? Maybe you could be one of the "super managers protectors": to called it in a polite way?
vulgo:asslickers

Spunk 10th Aug 2016 17:31

Waiting for 20 mio? That's what I definetly call manager's fault.

jhsh 11th Aug 2016 09:17

Well Mr VEMD.... you must be god ....and seems to know all the truth about your Blue Planet !:D I wish you a nice day ! not necessary to be vulgar, or maybe it is your way of life !:ok:

jhsh 8th Sep 2016 12:45

for Mr VEMD
 
https://webmail.helipt.pt/owa/redir....nte-da-anpc%2f


Here is for Mr VEMD ! the truth is coming about Heliportugal, and the "bad" is in the other side ! Before talking dear Sir, and lying under a nickname:ok:, try to see where is the reality ! just a LOL to end !;)

berlioz 11th Sep 2016 04:53


Originally Posted by jhsh (Post 9500999)
https://webmail.helipt.pt/owa/redir....nte-da-anpc%2f


Here is for Mr VEMD ! the truth is coming about Heliportugal, and the "bad" is in the other side ! Before talking dear Sir, and lying under a nickname:ok:, try to see where is the reality ! just a LOL to end !;)

Nothing there......

hueyracer 11th Sep 2016 13:59

Heli Portugal had (has?) the same problem many other companies have:

Inexperienced pilots (on paper they all look great, but some of them are just not good pilots, or better: their style of flying does not match the hours they pretend to have), and bad management (meaning they just care about some things, letting go of others that are even more important).

I had the pleasure of working with them on fires for one or two seasons....the flying part is good, the copilots i had were great (although low-timers), but some of the management´s decisions were......questionable at least.

Funny to see some of the low-time copilots in the Captain´s seats now, with only a few hundred hours extra.......just to make sure they can claim to have "local pilots only"....

Thorond0r 9th Sep 2019 16:21

Hi fellow Rotorheads,

so, 3 years later, how is Heliportugal doing? Heard there is a high rotation in their Off-Shore contracts and the pay check is lower than 10 years ago...

This is all about rumours...but...anybody upgrading them to facts?

hueyracer 9th Sep 2019 17:02

There was a bit of a weird thing going on....

From my understanding the offshore contract went to Gulf Helicopters to provide AW189.

GULF then tried to get helicopters and Crews, but failed to get them in time... So it was changed to 139....then outsourced to HP.....

The deal was that HP provides the aircraft, and Gulf the crews (or the other way round?)
​​​​​.

Last I heard was that HP is now trying to lease a helicopter And is desperately looking for Crews...

Thorond0r 9th Sep 2019 21:03

That sounds very confusing and desperate. Are you talking about the Romania contract? Do they have any other?

hueyracer 10th Sep 2019 05:24

No, I think the Romanian was on 155...

The 139 gig was somewhere in Africa.. Angola (I guess?).


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