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skid shoe 20th Dec 2007 11:14

Victorian MAS Contract: 2 new helis
 
Word is that the winner of the Victorian Metropolitan Ambulance Service Contract may have been announced today but I have not been able to find anything in the media that confirms who the winner is.
My information is that at the very least, one of the final bidders was told that they are no longer being considered. Does anybody know who might have actually won the contract or if the official announcement was even made?

Cheer
SS

Capt SFB 21st Dec 2007 08:53

SS,

Haven't heard anything, but you're obviously closer than I am. Who were the final contenders ? At a guess, CHC, Australian Helicopters and Jayrow??

Cheers,
SFB

skid shoe 21st Dec 2007 12:40

Sorry SFB. I'm not that close at all, thats why I had to come in here to see if any other pruners had some news. I didn't mean to sound mysterious in my original post. It's just that SOME (certainly not all) oz pruners seem to take a huge delight in piling s**t on other pruners or the various oz operators whenever there is a bit of bad news, and I didn't want to start a slanging match.
The company that I know to have missed out have actually made an announcement in their company newsletter so it's not a secret. I will say that it is one of those you mentioned though. As for the short list of tenderers - there aren't that many operators in Australia who are in that market and big enough to take on the contract. I'd think your list would just about sum it up.

Cheers
ss

120torque 21st Dec 2007 12:44

Possibly CHC
 
CHC have just put an advert on flightglobal for 412 captains in Victoria ? Coincidence or not ?

Hippolite 21st Dec 2007 14:09

CHC will win the MAS contract. MAS are already in discussions with CHC about the transition from 412s to the 139s and the short term lower cost of not having to go straight to the 139. The economies of scale with the NSW contract make it hard for others to compete and it is believed that the other bidders were tendering leased aircraft which includes the lessor's profit component.

mickjoebill 22nd Apr 2008 11:23

2 new helis for Victorian ambulance service
 
The Age, Melbourne.

"MAS has advised that Victoria would benefit from the establishment of a dedicated adult, neonatal and paediatric retrieval helicopter in Essendon and emergency air ambulance helicopter located in Warrnambool," he said

What is the difference in the two types of heli service mentioned above?


Is this the limit or does Victoria still need more medevac helis if response times are to match European standards??

Mickjoebill

Shirtless 22nd Apr 2008 13:12

The difference is that the new unit out West will be like HEMS 1, 2 and 3 and do emergency medical ops. HEMS 1 (AS365N3) is based in YMEN and crewed by VPAW, HEMS 2 (CHC B412) in Latrobe Valley and HEMS 3 (CHC B412) at Bendigo. The additional 412 (CHC) at EN will be for interhospital and neonatal retrievals and housed at the combined Police / MAS new YMEN complex.

Will the new HEMS machine out West be put out to tender??? Maybe not as it will probably go to CHC as MAS very, very pro CHC and B412s!!;)

Winch-control 22nd Apr 2008 14:39

Not sure what your argument is? Is it neg CHC or Neg another provider, or Neg...in general? Maybe it will have a positive in there somewhere? Like, why try an match European standards? why not exceed them...or ultimately just provide the best service that is available...

Shirtless 22nd Apr 2008 22:29

No negatives...just facts!

Another EMS operation that is government funded (hence secure) is always a positive :ok:

Rob Russell 23rd Apr 2008 01:00

Congratulations Air Ambulance Victoria
 
Congratulations to Air Ambulance Victoria on yesterdays announcement by the State Government of Victoria, of 2 new EMS Helicopters for the people of Victoria.

Best wishes for the timely and successful introduction of these aircraft.

Rob. R.

mickjoebill 23rd Apr 2008 21:29


Not sure what your argument is? Is it neg CHC or Neg another provider, or Neg...in general? Maybe it will have a positive in there somewhere? Like, why try an match European sta

Err no it was a straight question.

Is this the limit for Victoria or should/could there be more helis so (by way of comparison) as to match response times to more densily populated areas of the world.

Your last line you seem to be saying that response times should be better than Europe? If this is the case how many more helis are needed in Victoria?


It is indeed good news albeit a long time in comming.


Mickjoebill

spinwing 24th Apr 2008 10:28

MMmmmm ...

Are these 412s the ones being released due to the introduction of AW139s in NSW?

Might they be also replaced themselves (in the future) by AW139s?

:ooh:

Shirtless 26th Apr 2008 04:06

It would be a good bet that the 412's from NSW will filter down to Vic. Makes sense, where else is CHC going to get a 412 in hurry. As to crews to man them...that may be harder to produce...although the attraction of living in a capital city may attract some within the company.

Anyhow I think you will find that the wheels will grind slower than expected being Vic Government based contract. The beaurocrats in Vic don't do anything in a hurry...yawn!!!......well if you go by the Vic Pol contract as, I believe, that still has not been signed off yet and is surely one of the longest running contract negotiations in history (I do believe the tender started 5 years ago:( :{.)

Bat0001 26th Apr 2008 12:01

WestVic Helicopter
 
G'day all. You may remember this issue has been bubbling for several years, with LifeFlight and Chibs both putting their toe in the water.

WestVic Board have what they have been chasing for a decade.
WestVic don't have to fundraise with this fully government funded option.

SAR EMS and Firefighting.

A win all round I'd say.

Squeaks 27th Apr 2008 00:44

Certainly a good result, after years of rebuttals from those in power in Spring Street :D

However: when will tenders be called, or is it already fixed for a supplier to get these lucrative contracts without competitive process?

spinwing 27th Apr 2008 01:07

Mmmmmmm ....

My understanding is that this was FIXED a loooong time ago!

I believe certain interested parties were told in no uncertain fashion what WAS going to happen!


:E

Breeze 29900 11th May 2008 13:03

Anyone know when the B412's in NSW will be replaced by the AW139 and EC145's, so they can move the B412's to Vic?

helo1 11th May 2008 20:33

the first AW139 is in Adelaide getting a refit ffor EMS work.
Once that has been completed id say t would be soon after that

Alba T Ross 14th Jul 2008 06:46

Who is going to operate the new 412 from Essendon? (It won't be CHC!!!)
Vic EMS will have 2 operators now ,CHC for Vicpol Essendon and MAS Bendigo and Latrobe and someone else for MAS Essendon! and will Warrnambool go out to tender or will CHC or the other operator be able to find a 412 for it??

spinwing 14th Jul 2008 07:43

Mmmmmm ....

Well thats interesting .... 'cos I was told CHC were recruiting for the Essendon job .... though nobody from Adelaide seems to be responding to the "online applications" that were called for ??? ... I also have been told its due to "kick off" late September or early October.

Curiouser and curiouser .....


So whats happening....

:E


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