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jemax 5th Dec 2007 17:14

Ulster GP Aerial Filming
 
Hi,

Could anyone please advise/recommend operators for doing aerial filming of the Ulster GP/Northern Ireland,

Thanks in advance

Whirlygig 5th Dec 2007 17:35

Have you tried PDG?

Cheers

Whirls

notar 5th Dec 2007 19:58

Try FlyingTV. Good product. Good Rates.

Barshifter 5th Dec 2007 20:05

You Could try Dave Baillie At Wildcat.

http://web.mac.com/david.baillie/wildcat/Intro.html

Max Shutterspeed 5th Dec 2007 20:16


You Could try Dave Baillie At Wildcat.

http://web.mac.com/david.baillie/wildcat/Intro.html
Cracking showreel!

http://web.mac.com/david.baillie/wildcat/Clipreel.html

MS

jemax 6th Dec 2007 00:50

Thanks for the suggestions,

Wilco

quichemech 6th Dec 2007 12:34

Another one for you is Polo Aviation, 01934 877000.

lartsa 6th Dec 2007 13:57

there is helimanx in the isle of man
[email protected]

mickjoebill 6th Dec 2007 21:24

From my perspective as on op, no one in the region specialises in aerial filming or owns a stabilised camera system.

Closest heli companies with their own 5 axis standard definition gimbal is PDG with AS350/AS355 (if available) and Heilds R44 news.


High Def stabilised systems, hand held or Tyler mounts can be shipped from UK and be fitted to local aircraft if you can find one.



Mickjoebill

dunnarunna 7th Dec 2007 04:13

Atlas Helicopters do that every year

jemax 7th Dec 2007 05:30

Thanks, it's looking like a position over from the mainland then, I'll advise client.

I'd rather be doing it on the bike myself!

Barshifter 7th Dec 2007 08:12

"Closest heli companies with their own 5 axis standard definition gimbal is PDG with AS350/AS355 /"


PDG use Wildcat
http://web.mac.com/david.baillie/wildcat/Gear.html

http://www.pdg-helicopters.co.uk/Film-and-Survey-g.asp

thwock 7th Dec 2007 09:25

aerial camera systems or arena ?

206Fan 7th Dec 2007 15:54

Seen one of PDGs 350s out this morning in the newry area doing aerial surveying of the electricity lines!

mickjoebill 8th Dec 2007 14:48

[QUOTE]PDG use Wildcat
http://web.mac.com/david.baillie/wildcat/Gear.html[/QUOTE
Have PDG sold their own UMII recently?
Wildcat, ACS, Arena, Flying Pictures, Skyworks, 10:13 and Helifilms are willing to fit HD gimbals on helicopters convenient to the filming location.
PDG aircraft have had all of the above gimbals at one time or another.
Then again the original poster may only need hand some held wobblescope
Mickjoebill

mickjoebill 8th Dec 2007 14:57

One combo I came up with for a Dublin shoot recently was an aircraft from Chester and camera from London.
PDG seem to be very busy most of the time with no AS 350 355s based in Dublin.
The R44 news from Heilds (closest) or Flying TV are good value if SD camera and lack of floats are not an issue.
109s available ex Dublin for hand held or Tyler side mount work.
Mickjoebill

rattle 8th Dec 2007 20:08

Don't think you need floats for aerial work do you?

md 600 driver 8th Dec 2007 20:27

helimanx has a r44 with floats and a hd camera also 355 in the isle of man


which is the nearest r44 with a camera

mickjoebill 9th Dec 2007 11:44

floats no floats
 
Yes single no floats is legal for aerial work.
Some don't want to fly low over cold water without floats near rugged coast.

Question of who is in the chopper is an issue in the UK.
Cameraman billing heli company is acceptable as they are not paying for the flight.

CAA UK seem to regard producer or director working for a company who are paying for flight as paying passengers, not crew.

Some heli companies get producer or director to invoice them as "crew", this is not so much a loophole as a noose hole.


That was the feeling last time I enquired to CAA in depth.

General consensus is the law is grey and would need to be further defined in a court of law.
Pity we cant go to court to have it cleared up in a hypothetical case rather than wait for a civil action.


Mickjoebill

mickjoebill 9th Dec 2007 11:53

R44 Hd?
 

helimanx has a r44 with floats and a hd camera also 355 in the isle of man


which is the nearest r44 with a camera
Is the R44 skid mounted mount EASA approved yet?
Do Manx own a HD gimbal?
If so it will be a cost effective choice.

As a side point, Robinson designer told me they dont want anything attached to their skids but cant stop anyone designing ancillary kit.
They wont put floats on the R44 news due to C of G and all up weight issues

Good to hear of a AS355 based there, is it on high skids?


Mickjoebill


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