Gotta agree with Spinwing, and the Duece,Oh, the Delaminator, the dead wood will be asked/told to move on, and the capable will be kept on, same old, same old.
Problem is, guys like me, who were considering a second coming, with more hours and experience than we like to talk about, are more or less being told, take it or leave it! Christ, 300 usd/day is what I earned when I left 7 years ago!:yuk: Burn the CV. Put the ol Lady to work!:ok: Back in the Doghouse!:confused: Have to fell sorry for all the old hands at ADA,who put in all those years, accepting all that crap, just to be crapped on again!:mad: |
300/day is about entry level pay in the GoM.
Even 400/day would be hard to justify the move. |
Look around request
I am taking a group of aviation enthusiasts to the UAE in Nov for the air show in Dubai, I have had requests from the group to try and arrange a look around Abu Dhabi Aviation facility at AUH.
Do they allow this ? Who would I contact please ? Thanks :) |
The chances are $hit show and none. ADA is primarily airside and the chances of getting through all the paperwork and B/S required to get airside there with a camera are slim and none.
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Thanks Ned
To be expected I suppose ! |
Ada Pilots Friends Of John P Hanley
Any ADA pilots out there that were friends with John P Hanley could you please contact me . We went to army flight school and worked with him at several company's including ERA. Lost touch when he left for the gulf, We were best of friends, he will be missed very much. What a great pilot and friend.
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Abu Dhabi Aviation - Latest Employment Scam
They're back...
There is a scumbag life form using Abu Dhabi Aviation management names and official-looking stationery claiming to offer employment at ADA - for a fee, which is a particularly reprehensible act in tough economic times. The latest batch of duped pilots and engineers saw a fraudulent US$29K+ per month Offer of Employment Contract accompanied by an image of a cheque made out to the applicant for Dirham 117,226 - and all that for a fee - ranging from US$1500 to US$400. Just send in the fee via Western Union and collect your cheque when you arrive at your new job! The bastards even include a fabricated UAE Entry Visa with the fake contract. ADA has never charged a prospective employee a fee for anything to do with employment - which includes obtaining any required visas. The company bears all costs associated with employment. If you know any mates considering paying any fees associated with Abu Dhabi Aviation, please advise them DON'T EVER PAY A FEE TO JOIN ADA! If you are a member of other helicopter bulletin boards, you could help by posting this text on them. The official website for ADA is: www.abudhabiaviation.com. There are links on the site for employment applications. IT IS FREE. ADA has filed an official report with the cyber crimes unit. Thanks |
Thats really low!
Thanks for the heads up! That's really low!
What does surprise me though is the real hiring process at ADA. Bit of a joke that is. They seem to be all over the map with the real hiring process as well. I once got offers on 2 separate dates 2 weeks apart for the same job. They never returned my call or even so much acknowledge receipt of documents or anything. Hardly what one would consider a professional approach to staffing after a big "Welcome to ADA new prospective employee". Poor form!! Frankly, I am a little concerned that they are even able to keep private information private, they are clearly incapable of acknowledging receipt of private or personal or protected information. I wonder how deep this administrative incompetence runs. Seems like this company has some things to work out. |
Like how to keep contracts? :E:mad:
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Hold tight
My advice! Stay in the military! Not a good time to be looking for civil work!
Could change but my bet is a few years! Good luck:ok: |
No Brainer
On the other hand....there are jobs available, probably even at ADA. They may not pay as much as some members would like, or remember, but perhaps the halcyon days are over, at least for a while.
Perhaps also the question you have to ask your self is whether or not you would like to be paid 'not a lot' to fly a civil helicopter and start work your way up the civil helicopter totem pole or whether you wish to stay in the military and be paid 'not a lot' and risk getting shot at. Start working the old boy network. If you are a military pilot with a clean record and a good attitude you should find something. For me it is a bit of a no brainer! |
Falcon Anyone?
Hi
Having spent some time with both ADA and GHC..I am fairly conversant with all the going rates at both places.. I was interested in this new start up called Falcon.. Can anyone guide me to someone hiring / any websites etc of falcon.. Just about any info would help...Rates/work schedule/contact info.. :confused: |
Mmmmm ....
globalindian... It would appear the only way of hiring on with Falcon at the moment is to go through their employment agency "Graystone". I wish you good luck with that .... :E |
:)Hey All, I am new to the forum and I was going through the thread and noticed it's mostly rotary pilots from ADA posting. I am interested in the Dash 8 flying at ADA and was wondering if anyone might be able to give any info on, shedule, pay, or any other info anyone might be able to offer would be greatful. Thanks in advance for any response.
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Also interested in terms and (living) conditions for the DHC8 crews, if anyone has info. Even ADA rotary crew who have seen or heard anything! :confused:
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Mmmm ....
Cloud Chaser .... Last rumour I heard was they(?) have bought a couple of 300 (?) series KingAirs for some new start up project ... one of which is to work out of Morocco ... :confused: |
Ada is at the moment as being said earlier is having abit of a re shuffle, it's really half and half, trying to get rid of older pilots chopping wages, how ?
simple emirati law. Also Daddy who own's ada, and son who own's falcon. GCAA had abit of throwing the teddy, so daddy gave son alot of the contracts to hold for him. As falcon is using graaystone, which is linked to blackwater, major backhanders through the US, to provide ex miltary for the certain SOC roles. Everyone is just getting their snout in trough, like they have done for years. It's far more simpler in Oman. fluffy |
good luck
Hopefully there will be someone there to switch the lights on for you. Dont mind the mess.........the exodus was swift:*
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graaystone
fluffy
I tried to locate this outfit on Google and Yahoo, and tried various spellings, is this the right name? |
What is happening at ADA , all these criptic threads ???? what is happening as one who used to work at ADA I have an interest.(I had enough of the Mumbai mafia and stories constantly changing and left , if i'm going to be f....ed around I at least want to be F...ed around by a westerner with some idea !)
Stacey and other westerners getting the bullet and I heard pakistani pilots coming in it's just what the arabs want a third world workforce being payed peanuts.... until they spear in the first one....... then back to those expensive westerners again! I worked with some great guy's there pilots and engineers just hope those that are left don't get compleatly screwed!!! |
The Mumbai mafia and Pakistani pilots? I can't see that working very well! Although they will save on Vans as the mafia probably put 4 to a room.
Blackhawk - do you know if there any Aussies left there now that the tax laws have changed? |
Epiphany, no none i'm in contact with but was just talking to a couple of mates the other day all of us ex mid east and we were wondering the same thing, why work in a sh.thole and pay tax at home!!!
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Any movement at Abu Dhabi aviation
Very interested in a fixed wing position in ADA. Anyone have any info on movement, when next hiring class please? any info will help. Thank you.
Safe flying |
Epiphany, as I understand it, KRudds recent change to 23AG has no effect on people working in a tax free country. Before the change they should have been declaring their full income and paying tax in Oz, unless they had non-residency tax status. (should have being the operative).
Working in a place like Nigeria is another story. Tax is paid on your behalf and there is no dual tax agreement with Oz so the money was effectively tax free. Not anymore. That conbined with the strong and strengthening ozzie battler will take a huge gouge out of the take home pay of the convicts. |
will take a huge gouge out of the take home pay of the convicts. Under Arm Bowlers perhaps would be more accurate. Convicts is sooooooooooo 1780's. :} |
Gee.
Not one single Ocker out there to take the Under Arm Bowler bait?? disappointing to say the least. :p |
Those scars are still tender it seems!
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Just as Convicts was so much 1780's, Under Arm Bowler is so 1980's. If their guy was smart enough he would have picked up the ball and smashed it over the fence for six. Instead he spat the dummy and chucked his bat. Just get over it :ugh:
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Mmmm ...
SASless .... no scars at all mate .... ..... whats to get upset about .... it WAS within the scope of the rules of the game ...... :eek: :E |
any dash 8 jobs?
any movements at ada. any hiring that anyone know of on the dash 8s. please let me know. thnx. p m me if able.:O
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Mmmm ....
No idea about the fixed wing operations .... BUT .... rumour has it a certain organisation has realised it had made a big mistake this year and wants back the skilled & talented workforce its (ex)contractor had supplied to them for so many years .... Ahhhh ...... life in the Logic Free Zone :} ;) |
SPINWING, thanks very much for the response man. I am trying to find out if and when ADA might hire on the dash, trying to get on with them. thanks again and Always appreciate any info man. fly safe.:)
p.s. do you know anyone who may know anything about anything, if you know what i mean? |
From AW website
Abu Dhabi Aviation and AgustaWestland Sign Shareholders Greement for the Formation of a UAE Limited Liability Company
AgustaWestland, a Finmeccanica company, and Abu Dhabi Aviation have reached an agreement to set up in the UAE a joint venture to operate in the field of maintenance and training for helicopters. The two companies agreed to participate in the formation of a limited liability company to carry out certain services and activities in the fields of helicopter repair and overhaul, customisation, modification and upgrading, and the sale of helicopter spare parts and accessories. Also the JV shall work in association with other local companies in the development of a fully integrated helicopter pilot training centre to be set up in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. In addition to its other helicopter and fixed wing fleets, Abu Dhabi Aviation also owns Maximus Air Cargo, the largest air cargo provider in the Middle East and is a 50% shareholder of Royal Jet, the leading VIP charter company in the region. Abu Dhabi Aviation operates one of the world’s largest civil fleets of 20 AW139s and has been an AgustaWestland Service Centre since 2005. From its large and modern maintenance facilities located at Abu Dhabi International Airport, Abu Dhabi Aviation is uniquely positioned to support AgustaWestland’s remarkably successful AW139 and other models. There are now nearly two hundred of these sophisticated, third-generation helicopters operating in both civil and military roles with many in the Middle East region. Capitalizing upon the depth of their respective resources, the synergies created through the Abu Dhabi Aviation and AgustaWestland joint venture shall deliver a new level of customer support and services locally within the region. Customers can expect to see a wide range of services in Abu Dhabi that have historically been available only from the manufacturer in Italy or the United States. Given Abu Dhabi Aviation’s goals of becoming an even more global aviation enterprise than its current international business scope, this joint venture with AgustaWestland is yet another initiative to extend the Abu Dhabi and AgustaWestland brands. |
That sounds great. As the whole goverment is driving towards any company that wants to set up a maintenance company here. As in Al Ain for the first Airport cluster being built for avaition enginneering for airbus.
So every company will send their pilots to type in Abu, instead of italy...... I'm sure the pilots at dubai will be over joyed just to travel a couple of hours to abu on a good day, instead of having to put up with Italy for a few weeks, the lucky people..... |
Anything new at ADA please?
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ADA SAR Contract
I am interested in applying for a position on the ADA SAR contract in the future and was wondering if anyone had information on aircrewman and rescue crewman jobs with ADA. Any information about minimum qualifications for both roles, pay and rosters would be much appreciated. I currently reside in Australia working SAR on a contract for the RAAF.
Cheers |
Apply online www.adaviation.com :ok:
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Mmm ...
I understand that contract will be coming up for renewal in August this year ... so be aware if your hired soon you might (but not likely) be un-hired by September if they do not get it ???? :eek: |
Anyone know their current pilot needs? Are they recruiting, or are things a bit quiet there at the moment?
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I do know that they are looking for Engineers now seeing how a lot of guys are fed up with the BS and working with unqualified co-workers. In the past 1-2 months there have been 8-10 resignations that i know of, and more are not far behind. Not to mention doing an 8/4 rotation when down the road FAS is offering a 6/6 for the same money. The latest i've heard now is ADA is going to have guys sign a contract stating that if they leave they cannot work for another aviation company in Abu Dhabi for 1 year. I know they have a gentlemans agreement with FAS that either one won't hire a former employee for 6 months but talking to a few people that have been in contact with FAS they are looking at ways around this as they are in serious need of people.
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