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twistair 23rd Jun 2007 18:47

AS355(?) down near St.Petersburg, Russia
 
Helo (likely AS355) flown under "Baltic Airlines" flag sank into Finnish bay today with 2 pilots and 3 to 5 pax onboard. Passengers reported alive, pilots dead. No details yet.

twistair 24th Jun 2007 12:31

Corrected info is: 5 onboard (2 crew+3pax), 4 alive, injured, 1 (pilot) missed.



Cannot imagine what happened. Pax were reported drunk.

IntheTin 24th Jun 2007 12:37

Oops :yuk:

206Fan 24th Jun 2007 13:58

Flipn hek, if i was the pilot i wouldn't be flying no drunkn passengers, they could go for the controls or anything. Doesn't look like the helicopter suffered engine or tail rotor failure!

Spunk 24th Jun 2007 20:03

Never been in an AS355 ... could it have been hydraulic probs???

Finnrotor.com 25th Jun 2007 00:21

Still some reports out there that there's one person missing...?
Here is a news report in Finnish; http://www.iltasanomat.fi/uutiset/ul...asp?id=1391671 ; that says "According to News Agency AP there's one person missing." That report was updated midday on sunday.

Quite typical for Russians that they are slow to publish any facts, so the rumours are spreading:*.

twistair 25th Jun 2007 05:40

Confirmed: 1 pilot found dead, 3 pax and 1 pilot alive, injured. They were happy - there were two men playing on water scooters 100 meter from the crash site, they saved injured.
They didn't inform about pilot until found his body in a sunk helo.

MSP Aviation 25th Jun 2007 07:51


Never been in an AS355 ... could it have been hydraulic probs???
That's what I suspected. The original pitch up reminded me of that USCG HH-65 airshow footage.

fu 24 950 25th Jun 2007 10:14

Looks like a AS355N, which has dual hyd to the main rotor and single to the tail

Aser 25th Jun 2007 18:29

o h m y g o d !

rotorspin 26th Jun 2007 07:41

can't believe there hasn't been many more comments pondering the circumstances of this one on pprune...???

its hard to watch.....:ooh:

Helinut 26th Jun 2007 09:24

Seeing videos like this one, I have a mixture of a morbid fascination and curiosity, together with a revulsion that anyone took the video or is watching it.

Certainly a very unusual flight profile, and rather fortunate that anyone survived it at all. Perhaps the surviving pilot will be able to shed light on the cause. There seems to have been some pretty major "inputs" into the flying controls from somewhere...........

cptjim 27th Jun 2007 14:16

Wow, that video made my stomach churn!

I hope they can shed some light on what happened!

My condolences to the family and friends of the pilot....RIP

Dragonflyer 24th Jul 2007 18:28

Jack Stall in As355N?
 
immediately following the accident the surviving copilot reported controls jammed...

the name of pilot who died was Kutuzov.

Helinut 25th Jul 2007 10:18

Jammed controls could certainly do that.

As an example, there is an AD on Squirrels about an anti-vibration weight which is located close to the run of the primary controls. If my memory is correct, some cracks have been found in the device that secures the weight. If the locating device failed completely, it and the weight would fall onto one of the control tubes.

Of course, it could be something else entirely.

Ema_CTA 25th Jul 2007 12:43

It seems a very unusual manouvre for an helicopter like this, I think that the accident is linked to a thechnical problem to hydraulics system....

Very hard to see the video don't care about my stomach....

Regards,
Emanuele :sad:

Aesir 12th Oct 2007 11:46

Has an preliminary accident report been published?

twistair 12th Oct 2007 15:25

There is no such thing as official preliminary report in Russia so this time we only have rumours which depends on what interests different parties involved have. Let's wait.

Ewan Whosearmy 29th Nov 2009 15:06

Was a cause for this mishap ever firmly established?

starshiptrooper 29th Nov 2009 19:56

I find it incredible that some of the pax/crew survived that impact. The aircraft seem to break up on hitting the Ocean, truly remarkable......condolences to family of those lost


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