New Chinese Air Ambulance
 

Best you don't have an accident/heart attack on your next holiday in China:uhoh:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...ent_605505.htm

R44driver:

I was thinking the same thing but then I remembered the recent visit of a Chinese basketball team to OZ. They were anything but short. :p

No problem.
You just carry the patient in a stretcher outside the cabin: http://helicoptermuseum.org/Aircraft...helicopterID=7

http://helicoptermuseum.org/ImageLib...ell_47-D-1.JPG

Hmmm, this sounds like a mission for Captain Hollywood and his amazing R88! ;)

So how would a loaded stretcher on the side of An R44 affect the C of G? Would be really interested in seeing a picture of this machine? Can anyone find the operator?

when the patient sees a robbo coming to pick him up i suspect he may suddenly feel a whole lot better....and drive himself to hospital !!!:ok:
Moral of the story. drive VERY carefully if you are in China.:=

Oh well! Could have been an interesting topic on how the developing nations are introducing helicopters, but alas its just going to be another Robbo bashing thread!:ugh:

Without Robbo bashing and no matter how short and thin the average Chinese national and guess that its not about 'swoop and scoop' at all.

Much more sensible is that they will deliver a doctor or team to the patient until they later get their mentioned larger helicopter. Just like London Virgin when the MD900 is offline and an AS355 is in use.

There is an R44 up in Kessin in Germany which gets used for just that purpose. The crew consists of a pilot, a doctor and a paramedic, and the idea behind the operation is to get medical help to the patient as quickly as possible.

See:
R44 EMS in Kessin
R44 EMS in Kessin

Please can we stay on topic. Oh yes, Robbo bashing .:D No to be fair it is a developing country and beggars cant be choosers AND they have got loads of child labour to wind the band up between flights:ok:

The Bell47 saved hundreds of lives in nam so why wouldn't a 44 do the same in China? CofG wouldn't be too bad if the stretcher was on the port side and crew were on starboard - If I had the choice of being air lifted in a remote region for a few mins and saving my life V a long trip by road in a Chinese built ambulance, it would be a no brainer.

The idea of getting a paramedic & doctor out quickly would work well in parts of the UK as well, parts of Wales and Scotland take hours by road but minutes by air and a 44 is a very cost affective way of getting emergency help there quickly, with the low operating costs of a 44 compared to any turbine most remote hospitals could probably afford one.
(Then think of all those extra cpl(h)'s that would be needed!)

Helis in China
 

Just checked out a job site (www.climbto350.com) and was surprised how many airline jobs are being offerred in China.
Any idea how much heli flying is going on in China? Business must be exploding in the next couple of years for chopper operators I would guess...
any thoughts?

I know Avion Pacific are looking for a 76C+ TRI. They were also looking for a 92 driver recently TRI again. PM me for more if you have the quals

flyheli

You are certainly correct about this one.

World trade journals suggest China has ordered about 1,000 airliners to be delivered in the decade or so. Reason is at present 25% of world airline traffic occurs in Asia and China’s economy is growing at four times the average western nation.

It is anticipated that in the next five years the world rankings in economic powers will be 1. USA; 2. China, 3. Japan; 4. India and 5. Europe.

So what is the problem for the Chinese?

Training gurus have indicated that all the Chinese flight schools and their colleges established overseas, such as the two large ones in Western Australia, can only supply 80% of the aircrew needed. It is assumed they will call upon the shrinking pool of international aircrew.

Now what has this got to do with helicopters?

Until recently China had no general aviation industry or private ownership. Today, GA is struggling to catch up – demand far exceeds supply (of qualified people). The first privately owned aircraft in China was a Robinson R44, according to the media.

Government sources state that they would like to see the existing civilian fleet of 260 grow to 3,000 in ten years. Mainly to establish SAR and HEMS services.

China’s neighbours have very large fleets, Japan has a large mainly turbine fleet, Australia in now about sixth in the world in ownership (1,330) and New Zealand ranks in the top ten (650). So China’s 260 is relatively small.
Thailand and Malaysia have less than 100 each, mainly used in off shore oil type work. India has about 300 helicopters, of which 50% are light piston, according to one source.

India and China have relatively large military helicopter resources, at a wild guess 400 – 600 respectively. (Hard to get info). Both India and China have the capacity to provide some ex-military people to the civilian industry – but one bureaucratic hurdle slows them down, the licensing of ex-military drivers (and engineers) needs a lot of work.

China’s helicopter GA - small today - big tomorrow?

Several international companies have established manufacturing facilities in China and these are coming on line, and local designs are now appearing.

The dark over-arching shadow. The Asian (Chinese) vigorous airline expansion means they will attract pilots who otherwise would have become helicopter drivers – look at the money differences! But the biggest pain is their capability to steal helicopter engineers, already an endangered species.

So where will the help come from. My travels and chatting over the odd beer suggests that the Middle Eastern cashed up flying schools (some to be established) have the best motivation and energy to address this problem. A lot of these organisations have British or French mentors.

Can anyone update these figures; they are becoming a little rusty. For example, what if the fleet size in Japan?

This is merely another example of the Chinese surge which will push the US off it's "World's #1 economy" status. India is also in the ascendancy for #2 spot.... both have population of a BILLION or more.

In the next decade - who will dominate?

MacDonalds, Curry House or Chinese Noodles.

What happened to Roast Beef and veggies?

Chiense air force carries out first night training operations
 

Helicopters from the Chinese Air Force have taken part in what is being reported as their first ever night time training exercise.

The exercise took place yesterday July 22 at an airport in Lhasa, capital of southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region.

The helicopters used were Chinese Air Force (PLA) Mi-17.

news.xinhuanet.com

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/9...b23614a9_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7422/9...f4edea7a_b.jpg

Chinese Helicopter Smuggling
 

http://english.cri.cn/mmsource/image...35f1d025df.jpg

Helicopter Smuggling Case Exposed in Xiamen

GKN to supply emergency flotation for Chinese AC313 helicopter

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_AC313_Gu.jpg

ADS Advance - GKN supplies emergency flotation for AC313 helicopter

Rescue off coast of Qingdao in East China Sea

QINGDAO, Aug. 10 -- Rescuers have retrieved two bodies and are still searching nine others who went missing after their fishing vessel capsized in sea waters off east China's Shandong Province on Saturday morning, local authorities said.

The boat, "Luchengyu60326", turned upside down at about 8:25 a.m. Saturday in waters 12 nautical miles southwest of the Chaolian Island of Qingdao, according to the provincial maritime bureau.

Two dead, 9 missing after Chinese boat capsizes-Eastday

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ph...619286_11n.jpg

China's North Sea rescue helicopter is dispatched to save an overturned fishing ship in the Qingdao sea areas, east China's Shandong Province, Aug. 10, 2013. One dead and other 10 missing were reported in the accident so far.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ph...619297_11n.jpg

Photo of the overturned boat.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ph...619289_11n.jpg

Air sea rescue crew.

China's north sea rescue aerocade saves overturned fishing ship in Qingdao - Xinhua | English.news.cn

Is it Russian?
 

I don't recognise the brand of 2 seater in the post on smuggling. Anyone able to identify it?

22clipper, the helicopter is a Helipark HPC450 previously known as a WM50 and is a German ultralight helicopter.

There are some confusing parts to this story because the HPC450 is subject to a trade agreement between Germany and China so the guess is that a private buyer was trying to bring one to China but which is not to do with the trade agreement.

http://www.insuedthueringen.de/stora...ion=1320165913

Helipark HPC450 / WM50 ultralight

If you are interested in such things you might also like to look at the Belgian Dynali helicopter.

http://dynali-helicopter-dach.de/typ...a7bbfc9308.jpg

Dynali H2S

enlightening
 

All this talk of the R22s demise and little 2 seaters popping up like mushrooms, an interesting world.

Especially when you consider how many light helicopters are now being produced in one way or another in China. When contacted, an industry expert in Germany told me that some regional governments in China were not concerned about how many units they sold just if they get the experience for building and testing helicopters. He believed it was part of a national plan to enter bigger helicopter production in the future.

Deck landing trials in progress

Helicopter landing on Bengbu warship successfully - CHINA - Globaltimes.cn

The Harbin Z9 has been in service with various arms of the PLA since the early 90s.
They sub-contract the 2nd line servicing to the company I used to fly for.

First heli aeorbatics team in China: https://twitter.com/HeliNews1

Hi all,

...I keep hearing about all those fantastic long line jobs somewhere in mainland China, but I cannot find ANYTHING online!?:{

Does anyone have some REAL info about this?

Company names, CP names, websites, work experience?

Thanks for any hint coming this way!

Cheers,

3top :cool:

China helicopter jobs.....where are they?
 

Hi all,

...I keep hearing about all those fantastic long line jobs somewhere in mainland China, but I cannot find ANYTHING online!?:{

Does anyone have some REAL info about this?

Company names, CP names, websites, work experience?

Thanks for any hint coming this way!

Cheers,

3top :cool:

You could do worse than visit the Heliservices HK Ltd website. No it is not mainland China, but yes, they do a great deal of long-line work with 4 x Lamas. \very professional company, and require the very best of team members. ~ CW

I heard a rumour the lama's have been sold , fleet being upgraded with one MD902 presently in service

They may be looking for qualified pilots

Offshore IFR Captain Job
 

Greetings to all.

I consider this forum is a gateway to the world of Opportunities in Aviation and I am a true beneficiary of information I acquired here.

I am yet again in need of info and req you folks to share the chief Pilot's or the operation head contact information Of any offshore company or corporate operating AS 365N/N2/N3 or EC155 Helicopters in CHINA.

23 yrs of flying experience(>5000 hrs) with ICAO ATP and IR and currently engage in offshore flying in west Africa.

Will appreciate any input on this through PM or in open forum.

Cheers and happy landing always

155

from who
 

Who are you hearing these stories from? A 21 year old Robbie pilot from Memphis, with a special place in his heart for pork dumplings? There are a ****load of airlines jobs there, more in fact than anywhere in the world. Helicopter jobs, no. China's airspace is controlled by their military. You need to file a request to fly one week before the flight and pay a large fee. You can see how that doesn't work. On Hainan Island they have just opened up the bottom airspace to civil aviation on pre-approved routes, but the only helicopters there are R44s doing sightseeing. There is one company I know in Harbin, far north-east with A Stars and Mil 8s but no one there speaks a word of English other than "USA OK". If you are S76 or 92 type rated there are a few jobs. Try China Southern Airlines for the 76 and China National Offshore Oil Corp for the 92s. You might be the only foreigner, but hey, that might be a good thing, if you're not a conversationalist.

Hey allwornout,

thanks for the reply!

That's exactly what I "know" - no type rating in 76 or 92 - so no go there.

The "supposed" jobs are long line (vertical reference) supposedly on AS350 type helicopters, "all over the place", but mainly in the NW.
I know of at least one pilot you actually was there last year, but he wouldn't talk, so....

Well, still looking forward to find out SOMETHING!!

Cheers,

3top:cool:

Nowhere. They have enough pilots of the various disciplines of their own. The days of foreign pilots filling the slots and training their replacement have gone. I know because I was one of them and went when my time was up. I was at my last operation on a visit a month ago and they are running it quite happily by themselves, thank you.

Any pilots they need for anything they get either company trained pilots or time served pilots from the PLA.

Airlines are different because of the overwhelming number of aircraft they have ordered or brought into service. The rotary world, now, or in the future is perfectly under control.

...so they do all the vertical reference work themselves already?!!

Well, Good Night China for foreigners, then!!

3top :* :{

I'm not sure I agree, I was offered a job there 2 months ago airwork in a new 500.
IFR offshore can be covered by the locals but not the long line stuff

the news more than 10 years,I am working in the team now,we have 4 S-76C+/4 S-76C++/4 EC-225/8 S-76D(delivery in the end of the year),we saved more then 3700 peoples in last ten years.

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Hello enzedong, you work for the Rescue and Salvage Bureau (CRS) of the China Ministry of Transport ?

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China Jobs ????
 

China : information? Links? For a job as a helicopter pilot?
Everyone says that the market for helicopters explode, but I can not find anything on the net: why ????

China ordering 50 helicopters from Agusta