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Gordy 4th Feb 2011 06:11

TrT


I would need someone to be interested in hiring me to get a work permit?
Sorry to burst the bubble---NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.....unless you have some exceptional skill that cannot be found here in the US already. And btw...I have about 10 resumes on my desk right now from US pilots with ATP, long line, fire and EMS experience and all have over 10,000 hours. There are also thousands of CFI's out here with instrument already, who are looking for work.

Not sure what to tell you....

grumpytroll 4th Feb 2011 14:40

hmmm
 
Two EMS pilots flying at or near my base, one from Switzerland and the other from Australia are employed here in good old Wisconsin. Somehow, some way they managed it. Both in their 30's. Making in the mid 60's. Go figure.

Cheers

Gordy 4th Feb 2011 15:28

Grumpytroll...

Green cards maybe?..I am guessing that the EMS company did NOT sponsor them.

The point I am making is that I find it hard to believe, and have have heard it happen since the early 90's, that a helicopter company in this country will sponsor a foreign national to get a work permit....I am open to be proved wrong.

And that school you linked is still spouting the same "Vietnam pilots retiring, huge pilot shortage" line I see. They also need to learn to spell "aerial"....not too professional when you cannot spell that word......


It is well known that the helicopter's unparalleled areal capabilities are being utilized by many industries.
Too funny

imuney 4th Feb 2011 16:26

Ok guys, the simple truth to this is that unless you are a US citizen or permanent resident you will not be allowed to work in the US of A. Yes there is a employer sponsored program (H1B visa etc…) but it does not apply to helicopter pilots it is intended to bring IT, medical, and education professionals (to name a few) to the States.
The process to obtain such a work visa/permit is rather lengthy, painful and not to forget expensive. I doubt a company would go through this if they have stacks of resumes from highly qualified US pilots on their desk.

Yes, there are “foreigners” flying for US companies, but trust me they are either permanent residents also called green card holders or US citizens. I’ve never met anyone on a employer sponsored work visa in my ten years in the industry.

grumpytroll 4th Feb 2011 21:25

so in other words...
 
You have proven that it is possible to come here from another country and get a job flying a helicopter. Thats all I was saying. I have met many pilots from other countries who are now flying in the U.S. professionally. Here are a couple more examples: I went to army flight school with a guy who was born in Russia. He came here when in his teens and has a distinct russian accent. He is now retired. (CW4) I did my initial training at Northwest with a guy who escaped from Romania in the early 80's. He is currently a Captain on the A320 for Delta. He did all of his flight training in Florida, taught and then worked for a commuter for several years. By the way, a mispelled word on a website is no reason to completely discount the people who own the business. I own a business and we have a website that was created and is managed by a webmaster. If they misspell a word or use a bit of bad grammar, we fix it as soon as some nice person points it out. It doesn't reflect badly on me or anyone that works for me. Its just an honest mistake. Have have a good day!

Cheers

imuney 4th Feb 2011 22:09

you guys need to read up on US immigration and labor laws....
 
Ok then, why don't you go ahead and call AirMethods or another company's HR department and ask if they'll hire you?????
Only flight school owners and immigration lawyers tell prospective customers that you can get sponsoered by an employer. A couple of months and thousands of Dollars later the student finds out that it ain't so!

Canadian operators are known to sponsor foreigners and get them the proper work permit, not the US.

Rotorwashed 5th Feb 2011 03:28

in any case, your best bet is to visit the US and find a wife. hello green card.

newfieboy 5th Feb 2011 03:34

Quote Imuny...
Canadian operators are known to sponsor foreigners and get them the proper work permit, not the US....Not anymore mate....the local boys got pissed off and took it to Mr Harper.......lots of threads on it go read...:D

Gordy. I am with you. We got lucky Matey and came to N .America when times were good.....not so easy now.....12,000+ me, 15,000+ you,least it wasn;t the N. Sea....:ok: Have a good season matey....regards.:ok:

Gordy 5th Feb 2011 03:43

Newfie...


Gordy. I am with you. We got lucky Matey and came to N .America when times were good.....not so easy now.....12,000+ me, 15,000+ you,least it wasn;t the N. Sea.... Have a good season matey....regards.
Yes we did......And you too...I see you finally made it home for Christmas....on Christmas day.....ahhh the life of a utility pilot....Be safe out there. I leave on contract for 9 months tomorrow......

AirWon 6th Feb 2011 03:50

I have to concur with Gordy and Imuney......having said that, American wives are not that hard to come by:E:ok:

TrT 10th Feb 2011 16:29

Thanks anyway Gordy for the heads up...

Guido Krane 26th Jun 2011 12:19

american wives??
 
What about american husbands?
It happens too lately, with foreign girl pilots.
It doesn't sound that bad when you hear that she married a guy and got her green card!
It sounds a lot worse when he, the male pilot, is doing it!
Nevertheless I can count amongst my foreign friends in the US at least ten if not more who did exactly that move.
8 out of ten are now divorced but greencard holders if not already naturalized citizen and working in the industry.
Some of them cover already key position in their organization such as Chief Pilots or Director of Flight Ops, Company airman etc.
SO I wouldn't give up the idea.
The other way is to buy into some company and get a E2 investor visa which will let you work for that company for 6 years renewable.
I know a German guy who renewed already 4 times and is now ready to retire.
Talk to some schools they are usually always looking for investors and specially some with a clue of what to do with choppers, and can assist in the day to day operation to run the COMPANY.

s3bawild 6th Oct 2011 12:25

From Netherlands to the USA
 
Would it be smart to go to the USA for my lessons and exams?
i'm living in the Netherlands at the moment, the price to get PPL and CPL will be like 90K to 110K euro!
that is:118.000 to 145.200 dollars!
and how long will it take till i can get back to the Netherlands?

I am 17 years old and next year i'm done with school!

IceHeli 22nd Oct 2011 20:20

Training Options in FAA land
 
Hi guy's,

Just wanted to share with you my experience from the states. I recently came back from doing hour building towards my commercial licence. After doing lots of research online I decided to go to a school in McMinnville Oregon called Jerry Trimble Helicopters.

I found everything to be spot on with them, good helicopters, good people and great rates.

I would strongly recommend this outfit to anyone interrested!

IceHeli

RVV85 25th Dec 2011 10:16

Hi Guys,

I have been going through all the posts and basically what you are saying is that there is no way for a foreigner of any kind (except Canadian) to get a job as a Helicopter Pilot in the US?
:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Gordy 25th Dec 2011 17:58


I have been going through all the posts and basically what you are saying is that there is no way for a foreigner of any kind (except Canadian) to get a job as a Helicopter Pilot in the US?
Yep---unless you marry....

Kinda works the other way though too...right?

RVV85 26th Dec 2011 08:53

So now I have to find a wife too??? Sounds like a lot of work! Will rather sweep some hanger floors. :E

fijdor 26th Dec 2011 22:17

Good choice.

JD

206Fan 9th May 2012 20:08

Going across the Atlantic in June for Two Months. Is there any S300CBi Flight Schools in the Baltimore area?

Thanks.

beebo 29th Jun 2012 08:41

Building night-time for Part 135
 
Coming from Australia where night flying isn't factored into your license, and (at least for myself) there wasn't much opportunity in the following years, building this time to qualify for a Part 135 operation in the US will be my biggest hurdle.
How have you gone about building your night hours? In the company where you work, or ferries or flying privately?
Thanks for your help.


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