If I am "Them" we are all sunk, cause I am the only one of "Them" talking. Maybe I missed the memo from the Head Them.........

If, following a f***ed up flare recovery, I encountered HTG and was able to walk or even crawl, I would make sure the tech log was on board, put my licence on what remained of the dashboard and back slowly away, striking matches and throwing them at the wreckage. :uhoh:

on the topic of "them" and what "they" tell us, how about this myth:

"Torque limits, overspeed limits, temperature limits, hours and airframe limits have huge safety factors built into them by the engineers, so it is OK to bust them every now and then."

:}

Ah, but if you are not one of "them", who is them then. Who is the head "them". But if you are "them", how will we ever find out? To be on the save side, should we - which means we are us and not them - follow SASless proposition in that other thread about ILS approaches? We are getting a witch hunt here. We could also put you on a scale and find out if you are heavier then a goose. If you are lighter, we can all pull more power and our engines will still reach TBO.

Should we give it a try?:E

@ Rotorbee:

It is a myth that they hide something... that means to me, maybe they do not hide anything.

To FixedRotaryWing:
You are not familar with Monty Python, are you?

This is how "They" write flight manuals:
Sir Bedevere : Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3 : ...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere : Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant 1 : Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere : But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1 : Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere : Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1 : No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere : No, no. What else floats in water?
King Arthur : A Duck.
Sir Bedevere : ...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1 : If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere : And therefore...
Peasant 2 : ...A witch!

There are still some pilots with a classic education around.
Chapeau! You are right, it was a duck.

And now something completely different.

What about # 4? Did not know that this was a myth. Can we replace that with Shawns proposition about turbines and density altitude? That triggered one heck of a discussion.


...... Hang on? You know that by heart? How many times have you seen this movie?

hmmm, classical education?

sounds all a bit like 'them' who 'talk to goats' and try to 'walk through walls,' all this HTG stuff.

YouTube - She's a witch!

Topendtorque....


Not Talk to Goats..... The Men who Stare at Goats.


The Men Who Stare at Goats (2009) - IMDb


Watch the trailer. The film is better

But that's not a myth....

And "they" at Aiirbus didn't tell the flight crews (or anyone else as far as I can find out, because it would appear not to be in the Flight Manual) that the control response is halved when one wheel of their airliners touches the ground - that was a major factor if you watch the video of the Airbus flying sideways into Hamburg (aside form not trying to land there in the first place). I forget the link, but it's on Youtube.

Phil