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Oogle 11th May 2005 02:14

Would you guys give it a rest!!

Quit the bickering and get on with the job of addressing the topic (which I believe has been answered).

I am surprised you guys have time to do any flying because you all seem to be wasting alot of it on the computer passing out slangs at each other.

Grow up!

And no....... i am not Too Cloudy, Sling Load, John Eacott or the Queen Mother (RIP). I do like lollies though.:=

Nigel Osborn 11th May 2005 02:38

As I don't know any of the players involved in the slanging & very little about Rotor Lift, I won't add comment about that part of the thread.
However I spent 7 years living & flying in Hobart in pre Rotor Lift days, so I can comment about that part of the thread. It is a great place to live, not as cold as people think nor as wet, Hobart is the second driest capital city after Adelaide. The air is clean, the mountains beautiful, the fish big,etc,etc.
My family still regret we moved on, so if there is a job there, take it, I'm sure the company can't be that bad.

PO dust devil 11th May 2005 03:53

Personally I am with TC. Never known him to do a bad turn by anyone that didn"t deserve it.

DD

GROSSER 11th May 2005 06:10

"Where there is smoke - there could be fire"

The pilot was originally hired by the operator based on his experience, qualification and I suppose ability. He would have had an interview with the CP/Owner, been hired and subsequently worked for a period before resigning or being sacked.
He must have had what the company wanted/needed at the time - but lets just give him the benefit of the doubt that perhaps during his time there he experienced things that obviously justified him taking a case to CASA.
The fact that he felt he needed and was justified to go to CASA over his concerns and with a case that I can comfirm CASA did finally act upon surely suggests the allegations were serious.
It was the way in which CASA conducted their audit and the fact that unlike Bali in Australia you are innocent until proven guilty that you may have formally seen nothing.
The fact that CASA found nothing serious to act upon may be their fault!

BTW - I checked the CP's ATO status on the web and for someone who has been around for a very short time even as a CP/CFI he has the collector's edition of delegations. Any ideas how this may have happened?

CASA - just priceless!

Steve76 11th May 2005 23:52

I'm with you Rotaryman, shame we don't have pictures to go with the names :)
Interesting how one kiwi can great so much bad blood but there's nothing better than watching the aussies beat up on each other...its a win win situation ;)
Heck!, I think I might hang out in Dunnunda and Godzone more. Its much more interesting than listening to the poms bitching and worrying in here...
Game on team!
Lollies (candy): partial to licorice allsorts personally.
I would love to fly in Tassie.

ground effect 12th May 2005 01:49

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Steve 76 please check your PMs

chopperchav 12th May 2005 07:30

What do you call an Australian with a sheep under one arm and a goat under the other?

Bisexual.

Max Dover 12th May 2005 07:45

Meanwhile back to the original thread -

I have been talking to a few more people and it seems that the Hobart operation is being sold off.
Supposed to be bought by some Adelaide operator - I don't know who - but this might mean that the alleged problem CP/Owner might be gone.
So thanks to all you guys who give flying in Tassie the thumbs up - will help me to convince the missus!

Cheers
MD

XV666 12th May 2005 09:59

Back on the thread (which was about the Kiwi Space Invader, I thought?!) Hobart's a wonderful place to live & fly. Still some reasonably priced property available, good living, and decent beer :ok:

If rumours are right and RC moves on, great, but pity the next place he haunts :rolleyes:

sling load 12th May 2005 10:45

Max N2,
you have gone way over the top.
Enjoy your assets while you have them

giveitsome 12th May 2005 12:00

Max Dover Please Read
 
Hey MD.

Hobart, like the boys have said is a great place. Yep still some bargains to found in the property stakes. WX can be very interesting with CAVOK to BKN below 400 from 0 to 6 secs, however this will ensure you think about fuel and having an escape option.

Winds during winter can also be a challenge for most Single Eng Machines with a small tail rotor. Due to the latitude some hell winds blow from the west wich is fine on the East coast at Low Level however rescues on the Western side means lots of planning and the middle of the island is Tiger country central with icing and Turb to contend with.

If you go you will definately enjoy. Make sure you don't inadvertantly end up on a job in an IFR environment with a VFR mind set. Fuel + LSALT = Options

Enjoy Mate. Hope this helps.

Give It Some!!!!

:}

Along for the ride 12th May 2005 12:11

Max N2

Having flown with Too Cloudyover a lage part of his career and see him as one of the best SAR /EMS pilots around, I would suggest that he has been employed by these operators due to his skill, ability and professionalism, why else would he be highly sought after by all these professional helicopter operators?.

As for leaving these employers (mostly of his free will); it is well known that there are large number of operators in this induustry that let incompetant pilots and managers climb the corporate ladder to positions well beyong there abilities, take a look around.....

I would suggest that Too Cloudy leaves these employers becasue he just does not suffer fools.......!!.

:hmm:

Too Cloudy check PM

As for Too Cloudy leaving the VPAW, well, he probably did it for the same reason as everyone else who left before him......and since him.

He was probably sick of working his guts out trying to make a difference while at the same time incompetent managers were trying to shove a bat up his a***

I know, I was there...

As for Discipline and integrity, it is something Max N2 needs to get for himself........ and you can some from Too Cloudy, he has plenty to spare.

I dont know about all you people.....but I am only in this industry to feed my ego......isnt everyone else !!

belly tank 12th May 2005 14:42

As "along for the ride" says "EGO" thats what were about we have to feed the monster :), after all we live and breath it, if we dont fly for a day the missus cops the ugly end of the sTick (that's if you still have one!!)

No offence intended "along for the ride".....just commenting mate!

look N2, TOO CLOUDY you guys need to sort it out , ive been watching this thread since it started and this is no place to air you dirty laundry,apart from being good to spend the first 15 mins at work with cofeee!, i dont know either of you from a bar but sort it out for christ sake!!

its a beautiful industry beside the backstabbing, bantering, EGO, oh whats he up to today, oh his my opposition so ill call the feds industry!!!...after all why did we learn to fly helo's in the first place. coz we love the job.!...wonderful people from many backgrounds!......come on guys lifes too short...and ive got tommorow off!.....whos shout bartender!....missus...oh.....gone to bed...looks like ill have to leave you guys to box it out..till next feud

BT :}

Along for the ride 13th May 2005 00:01

Max N2

Mmmm......you must be a manager

Along for the ride 13th May 2005 00:54

Hold on a minute
 
Max N2

funny you should mention 'confrontational'....I think we should all leave this whole topic alone.

skidbita 13th May 2005 05:20

You guys should call Judge Judy, It sounds like the cases she is familiar with.... besides it would be entertaining seeing a bit of biff on the TV.:ok:

Heliport 13th May 2005 19:54

We try very hard to avoid editing/deleting posts in Rotorheads, and it generally works well because most people know for themselves where to draw the line and don't need to be treated like kids. But, every now and again, some idiot comes along who leaves us no alternative.

Personal attacks on other contributors are not acceptable, nor are attempts to reveal true IDs behind usernames.

I think we're all entitled to a rest from Max N2's ranting drivel - especially the targets of his attacks who've both behaved with great restraint in the circumstances.

BTW, contrary to Max N2's wild claims, Too Cloudy and Sling Load are not the same person.


Heliport

PO dust devil 13th May 2005 23:57

Thanks Heliport.

DD

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 14th May 2005 00:10

Can we go back to the original thing now please ? No offence, but but this thread was good reading before this s**t.

NEO:ok:

gulliBell 14th May 2005 04:41

Hobart: RotorLift
 
The reason that RotorLift continually loses it's good pilots and engineers is that the Owner, who is also the CP, CFI, and the ATO, is a complete and utter jerk. He has to be the worst, diabolical, nutcase, that I have ever worked for or with in over 25 years in the industry. He abuses, screams at, and harrasses his staff at any opportunity. He consideres himself to be god, above repoach and never makes a mistake. Truth is he's just a bull****ter and to make matters worse he's not a very good pilot, although he considers himself to be the best in the world. I'm suprised that he has not killed himself and/or a crew and passenges yet, especially at night. He has crashed 5 times that I know of, and what do you know, he doesn't think any of them were his fault. If you are thinking of applying, forget it. Don't lower yourself to that level just to get an endorsement on a twin, or a CIR. Guys have been there for over two years have not yet go their CIR as the CP knows that as soon as they get it, they'll leave. To the best of my knowledge 18 pilots have left in 3 years, and he only employs 4 or 5 at a time. He can't get a full-time LAME beacuse they know about him. Enough said?? The minions like us in the industry need to stand up to jerks like this. I know the truth, I put up with him for long enough.


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