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goose0201 26th Oct 2009 22:06

i believe that helinuigini are leasing 2 for an upcoming contract out of pt moresby, i think they are scouting for drivers too

R.OCKAPE 27th Oct 2009 00:53

Is the contract you are referring to offshore or onshore ?

thanks

helifixed 27th Oct 2009 07:56

Thanks

https://heliniugini.aero/aircraft-fleet/

They do list the 214ST as part of thier fleet in the above URL. Not sure what sort of contracts they have.

goose0201 28th Oct 2009 01:53

re contract, i belive onshore...telikuma?? juswt got info from a mate in cairns that one ST was on the line at the airport.... thinking it's now on the way?

Jabberwocky82 30th Oct 2009 06:38

Bell 214 information
 
Hi guys, I need some help trying to find some info on a Bell 214. Does flying with bubble doors/windows result in any air speed restrictions? I can't seem to find it in the flight manual...

Thanks

R.OCKAPE 30th Oct 2009 06:56

Normally 120 kts

the company you are working for will be able to confirm that

Jabberwocky82 30th Oct 2009 07:14

Thanks for the speedy reply :)

I assumed it was 120 kts, I just couldn't find anything specific in the Manual about them.

Cheers

spinwing 30th Oct 2009 08:10

Mmmmm ....

Should there not be a "supplement" for a "Bubble Window" installation in the RFM .... in which case variations to the Limitations would be there!


:confused:

Jabberwocky82 30th Oct 2009 08:40

There's nothing about bubble windows in the supplements (Section10). I'll do a bit more searching but it's not too big a drama.

Thanks again guys for your help.

RVDT 30th Oct 2009 10:40


There's nothing about bubble windows in the supplements (Section10)
Then either the RFM is not up to date or the aircraft has an unapproved modification.

Which 214 are you talking about B, B-1 or ST?

picapart 30th Oct 2009 19:35

The VNE is 140 kts as per our flight supplement . If the helicopter your talking about is yellow and blue ,it won't be in there .

Jabberwocky82 30th Oct 2009 23:25

It's not for a job, I was lucky enough to be given a copy and I wanted to learn more about them - my curiosity's getting the better of me. It's a B1 model.

picapart 31st Oct 2009 04:49

I have the flight manual on my hard drive as well as the m.m 's. ST one's as well .

Jabberwocky82 7th Nov 2009 04:06

I've got a few more questions about these awesome machines.

The maximum rate of climb is limited to 2000ft/min. Is this a strtuctural limit? e.g. Main GB stress limit or a Parasite Drag etc? I've never been in anything powerful enough to have a limit as such.

Why does the HYD System 1 run cooler? Does System 1 have less load, have longer piping or similar (which inadvertantly aids in heat conduction)??

When do the secondary nozzles open during starting? When N1 is 37%?

I don't expect them all to be answered, but nay help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you

RVDT 7th Nov 2009 09:12

Maximum rate of climb - think ballistics, how long will you wait after the engine fails for gravity to take over and enter autorotation? 6-7000 fpm can be achieved. i.e > 60 knots. Also it is possible for the greenhouse windows above your head to fall in on you.

HYD is similar to 212/412 the pump is turning faster. Design thing, the second pump came along later and is driven from a different part of the MGB.

When do the secondary nozzles open? Who cares, just that they do.

B1 means reduced internal gross weight over B and is only a flight manual change to be technically under 12,500 lbs.

spinwing 7th Nov 2009 09:20

Mmmmm ....


Yes ... the Hyd System 1 pump runs quite a bit slower (by nearly 2000 rpm I think) and as it also operates the Yaw system Hydraulics has more pipe work and thus runs much cooler.


:}

Jabberwocky82 7th Nov 2009 18:42

Cheers guys :)

Flyhigh214sm 26th Nov 2009 19:43

the b1 is the most amazing machine ,,, how did u get a flight manual ,, or is it a hard drive copy

Phil77 27th Nov 2009 14:33

Not the B1, but eivissa is so kind to provide anybody who asks nicely with a download link to manuals of the 214B and 214ST.
The impressive list of manuals he has, can be found here:
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/354...ml#post5336244

simon beck 2nd Dec 2011 01:22

Bell 214 / Rocky Mountain Helicopters
 
Hi, I'm looking for a database on the Bell 214 if anyone has one
and photos of any of RMH 214's.

Simon Beck


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