jbrereton

This is not a true statement you are obviously ill informed.

Hummingfrog has answered that one.

No I am not a BOND spin doctor, if so I would have a silly name to hide behind, but I would say you are possibly a Bristows pilot as if you do not know me you do not work for either CHC-Scotia or Bond? So that explains why you are so negative.

Are you saying that you know everyone who currently works for CHC and Bond and their pprune nicknames? Wow, that’s some claim, you must get loads of Christmas cards. Do you really think Bristow pilots are negative?

But on a serious note, some of us using this forum can not be as open as you are. We have to remain anonymous because it is too easy to be labeled as ‘trouble’ by the companies we work for and subsequently side lined. This is where forums such as pprune are so valuable because it allows us to express our opinions without fear of reprisals. If we couldn’t this would be a very boring thread with very guarded postings. Instead we are getting a good open debate over an issue which affects every pilot flying the North Sea.

I was a member of the OILC union at the time that this was all being decided in the early days so I am hardly ill informed.

Well, if you were a member of OILC are you happy now that the ‘dedicated’ SAR aircraft you were promised could be shuttling and used for 3rd party work? Will that happen after discussions with the employees or just go ahead anyway?

One new vessel will operate in the central North Sea, a second in the northern sector and a third in the area in between. The four ships will replace six standby ships which have a total of 144 crew.

You mention the location of three ships and then refer to them as ‘four ships’. Where does the other one come in or is this more spin?

This is about safety offshore and as a current offshore driver I consider myself one of the offshore employees it affects. The original Jigsaw concept appears to have been watered down into a cheap wishy washy version.

If the SAR aircraft are going to be used for public transport inter rig shuttling then how long will it be before they will be flying to Aberdeen with passengers? How long before the regional support vessels will be carrying freight inter rig or elsewhere? Would this be acceptable to you as well?

I support Jigsaw in its original format. What I see now is not an improvement in safety but a reduction. Dedicated SAR seems to have become semi SAR. How long will it be before the SAR aspect of it becomes hardly anything at all?

Why, with oil prices as high as they are can’t we have a decent safety system offshore and why can’t we voice our concerns?

So my answer is this - let’s have Jigsaw offshore but let’s do it properly. In the long term it could affect all of us.

Please can somebody help me out here.

Where does SAR stands for:

Shuttle and Rescue or Search and Rescue???

Lets be professional and provide a good, quality service to the offshore workers, which IS on standby at all times and not used for all kind of different secundairy taskings. This is what JIGSAW is about, irrespective of the operator.

I know it will be boring and in the short term it doesn't seem to be cost effective, but (hopefully not!) when that day comes.....

Night Dipper

SAR
 

One assumes that BP and the Oil unions have been in on the Risk Assessment of this whole JIGSAW setup. If they are happy with the outcome then so should you be as they are the ones it affects the most.

I believe the turnaround for the SAR crews offshore will be one week offshore, one week onshore and one week off or mix up as you will. Again one would assume that the powers that be realise that a pilot who has been away for a period of time would need to go with a current pilot to get refreshed.

I do not know anything about the shuttling plans at present and so cannot comment, but give me time, I do know alot of people.

As regard the blurb on locations and the fourth ship, I do not know as I obtained that from the BP web page and I am asking myself the same question but again give me time and I will find out.

Yes I do get alot of Christmas cards but do not always reply so do not bother sending one.

You are all on about shuttling and what if it has to ditch. Well there are fast rescue craft on the rigs and Standby boats. The aircraft has floats and dinghies. If the aircraft had a problem doing a shuttle then it would have a problem on a rescue mission.

What if while shuttling there were a call out.
I would imagine the shuttling if it is taking place would be over short distances and could drop off any passengers very quickly, quicker in fact than starting up from scratch.

But please carry on as I do like a good discussion as those that have flown with me know.

One assumes that BP and the Oil unions have been in on the Risk Assessment of this whole JIGSAW setup. If they are happy with the outcome then so should you be as they are the ones it affects the most.

I believe the turnaround for the SAR crews offshore will be one week offshore, one week onshore and one week off or mix up as you will. Again one would assume that the powers that be realise that a pilot who has been away for a period of time would need to go with a current pilot to get refreshed.

Come on JB, did Bibby learn you nowt - assume nothing!:O

Wiz

To refresh:

The true definion or meaning of the word ASSUME is:

ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME ;)

Night Dipper

Yes I do get alot of Christmas cards but do not always reply so do not bother sending one.

As with all your other comments you assume that that will happen!

ASSUME
 

I watched the Benny Hill show as well so that is one person who is showing their age.

Its nice to know there are still some miserable buggers on the North Sea.

Don't mention Bibby he still sends shivers down me spine.

Trouble with you lot is you get too much money and time off.

Night Watchman if you knew me you would send me a christmas card I am such a nice person.

GFAB

Slight change of topic
 

Hi JB, I've been following the jigsaw post with a mixture of interest and amusement.

Hope life's treating you well.

All the best.

Is that a brand new Jigsaw L2 I see at the Bond hanger? - Looks great!:O


Wiz

Photos?
 

Anyone on the Bond side taken any photos of the new machines for us yet?
Angelonawire???:cool:

There's a photo of it here:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/922699/M/

Nice pic - its going to need better blade ties than those fitted if it is to withstand 55+Kts on the offshore helideck;)

Anybody know what the roster for pilots will be - heard a rumour that some already offered a job have turned it down as roster is poor

332M

Hmmmm. Sumburgh for Jigsaw?

I hear that Shell are moving back there as well.

Anybody want to buy a cheap hangar in Scatsta? History repeating itself.

I see that training has commenced in Aberdeen. Anybody know when the start date is for offshore basing?
The Miller now seems to be the rig that will be used though it doesn't have a run - off so the JIGSAW a/c will have to lift to allow beach flights in.
What is the roster going to be - still only 2 weeks leave?

332M

An un-hangared L2 offshore in the wind and Rain ?:sad:

Don't forget the ice and snow as well:uhoh:

Sharing cabins, night shift - deep joy:E

HF

Is jigsaw is still going ahead? I had heard a while ago that BP were looking at ways of dropping this project since they sold off much of their NS assets. It is going to cost them an arm and a leg. When I saw Rugsy was no longer going to Bond Offshore, I assumed it was all off. What is the latest??

roundwego

:p In the words of the famous Prodigy: You're the rumour starter, twisted rumourstarter .... (blaring noise in the background)

Roundwego,

The project is very much alive with at least two nice and shiny bumble-bee-esque L2s in place and flying training continuing apace.

The person you mentioned left after a disagreement regarding T&C. I think that they will live to regret losing him along with his long experience of CIVIL SAR.

Wiz

So who replaced Rugsy??