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TooHotToFly 13th Oct 2000 16:04

Does anyone know of a petition, maybe an on-line one where pilots opposed to the current JAA colour defficiency regulations can register their support?

TooHotToFly 13th Oct 2000 16:04

Does anyone know of a petition, maybe an on-line one where pilots opposed to the current JAA colour defficiency regulations can register their support?

Dutch-pilot 13th Oct 2000 19:20

Hi,

is there anybody who initially failed a JAA "coulourblindness-examination" and eventually passed it? I would like to hear from you because I failed Holmes Wright and now I have the intention to do a re-examination.
I hope to hear from you ASAP!
Gr. Peter

Dutch-pilot 13th Oct 2000 19:20

Hi,

is there anybody who initially failed a JAA "coulourblindness-examination" and eventually passed it? I would like to hear from you because I failed Holmes Wright and now I have the intention to do a re-examination.
I hope to hear from you ASAP!
Gr. Peter

Hang On, I'm Busy 2nd Nov 2000 06:09

Lacking as it does the pure entertainment value of other, recent, itchy-bollocks etc postings, I still think it's important. So here it is again.

I thank you.

[This message has been edited by Hang On, I'm Busy (edited 02 November 2000).]

Hang On, I'm Busy 2nd Nov 2000 06:09

Lacking as it does the pure entertainment value of other, recent, itchy-bollocks etc postings, I still think it's important. So here it is again.

I thank you.

[This message has been edited by Hang On, I'm Busy (edited 02 November 2000).]

inverted flatspin 12th Nov 2000 00:28

Flag it up time lads. This one needs to stay at the top of the pile.

inverted flatspin 12th Nov 2000 00:28

Flag it up time lads. This one needs to stay at the top of the pile.

inverted flatspin 12th Nov 2000 00:36

Found this on the IAOPA website.
http://www.iaopa-eur.org/yipolctd.htm#pilot

It sets out IAOPA's position on the issue (ie that colour vision be an operational requirement)
I take this to mean that if you can show that you operate safely then you should be able to fly.

This is probably the best way to go about lobbying for a change (through IAOPA)


inverted flatspin 12th Nov 2000 00:36

Found this on the IAOPA website.
http://www.iaopa-eur.org/yipolctd.htm#pilot

It sets out IAOPA's position on the issue (ie that colour vision be an operational requirement)
I take this to mean that if you can show that you operate safely then you should be able to fly.

This is probably the best way to go about lobbying for a change (through IAOPA)


Dutch-pilot 13th Nov 2000 00:37

But that is the problem, isn't it??
How can you show that you are able to operate safely when you haven't passed H/W.?

Greetz.


Dutch-pilot 13th Nov 2000 00:37

But that is the problem, isn't it??
How can you show that you are able to operate safely when you haven't passed H/W.?

Greetz.


inverted flatspin 13th Nov 2000 06:51

If they allowed you to take the signal light gun test then you would be able to show that you could operate safely.

In the US this kind of waiver has been issued for many many years and not one single accident/incident has ever been attributed to a pilot with one of these waivers confusing colours. (according to the NTSB database)

A perfect record is hard to argue against.

inverted flatspin 13th Nov 2000 06:51

If they allowed you to take the signal light gun test then you would be able to show that you could operate safely.

In the US this kind of waiver has been issued for many many years and not one single accident/incident has ever been attributed to a pilot with one of these waivers confusing colours. (according to the NTSB database)

A perfect record is hard to argue against.

Dutch-pilot 15th Nov 2000 01:11

Yeahh, that is good news!!!

So, what are we intented to do now... :-)) Or what CAN we do??

Greetz!

Dutch-pilot 15th Nov 2000 01:11

Yeahh, that is good news!!!

So, what are we intented to do now... :-)) Or what CAN we do??

Greetz!

Hang On, I'm Busy 4th Dec 2000 04:53

A joke to keep it on top:

How can you spot John Prescott on an oil rig?

He's the one throwing bread to the helicopters.


I thank you.

BTW, I have discovered that if I photocopy the Ishihara plates, I can see all of them. Worth a try with the CAA?

Hang On, I'm Busy 4th Dec 2000 04:53

A joke to keep it on top:

How can you spot John Prescott on an oil rig?

He's the one throwing bread to the helicopters.


I thank you.

BTW, I have discovered that if I photocopy the Ishihara plates, I can see all of them. Worth a try with the CAA?

inverted flatspin 4th Dec 2000 07:22

Here is something I came across at the AME's just last week at my renewal. He used a device for checking eyes called the titmus vison tester. It is a compact machine that checks visual acuity and colour vision. It contains a sheet with six ishihara plates on it. However the difference is that the plates are correctly lighted. I passed the titmus vision tester which is by the way acceptable to the FAA but right afterwards he checked me with the same ishihara plates in a book and I failed that test. I must obviously be on the borderline but the point is that if the ishihara test is administerd in ideal conditions borderline people like me can pass it.

here is the website of the manufacturer

<A HREF="http://www.titmus.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.titmus.com</A>

what can the JAA have against such a machine?


inverted flatspin 4th Dec 2000 07:22

Here is something I came across at the AME's just last week at my renewal. He used a device for checking eyes called the titmus vison tester. It is a compact machine that checks visual acuity and colour vision. It contains a sheet with six ishihara plates on it. However the difference is that the plates are correctly lighted. I passed the titmus vision tester which is by the way acceptable to the FAA but right afterwards he checked me with the same ishihara plates in a book and I failed that test. I must obviously be on the borderline but the point is that if the ishihara test is administerd in ideal conditions borderline people like me can pass it.

here is the website of the manufacturer

<A HREF="http://www.titmus.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.titmus.com</A>

what can the JAA have against such a machine?



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