Sea Kings to Ukraine

[3D CAM]

Originally Posted by skadi

Originally not below the sliding door, just beside at the lower left corner ( looking from outside ).

https://www.militaryaircraft.de/pict...2_2838_800.jpg

skadi

Sorry, you are only partly right.
That is the RAF version.
RN pressure refuel point was/is starboard side below the sliding cargo door. Not sure about the Jungly ones though.
Gravity fuel points are on the port side.

[skadi]

Originally Posted by 3D CAM

Sorry, you are only partly right.
That is the RAF version.
RN pressure refuel point was/is starboard side below the sliding cargo door. Not sure about the Jungly ones though.
Gravity fuel points are on the port side.

AFAIK only the RN had the pressure refuel point below the sliding door. The norwegian, belgian and the german ones, which I used to fly, had it beside the door. On pictures of the commando version I found them there too.
The position below makes it easier for HIFR, but the german MK41 did that method too.

skadi

[Nicholas Howard]

Crab

Lot's of different parts (Westland Sea King vs Sikorsky H-3 or S-61) including the major assemblies you mentioned.

The MRB difference is down to the folding head nature of the Sea King versus the fixed head of the S-61. Rotor diameter is the same, blade length different. Or at least that's what I remember about the Carson blades (designed originally for the S-61)

Nick

[NutLoose]

It came about because we had a Chief Tech posted onto them when we the RAF were about to get them, he wasn't the brightest of sparks and was sent off to do the Airframe course ( he was an Engine trade ) followed by the Engine course, he was gone for several months on courses and was back awaiting his posting.
We had the visiting Boscombe one come in for fuel and the first time he had stirred for a long time he slid out the door like greased squirrel sh*t to refuel it, naturally we all followed him out as he dragged the hose out then couldn't find the refuelling point... How we all laughed at him, six plus months on courses and he couldn't even refuel it and needed the crew to help him out all i can think is he was looking behind the door for it..

Happy days

[John Eacott]

Originally Posted by skadi

Originally not below the sliding door, just beside at the lower left corner ( looking from outside ).

https://www.militaryaircraft.de/pict...2_2838_800.jpg

skadi

Originally Posted by skadi

AFAIK only the RN had the pressure refuel point below the sliding door. The norwegian, belgian and the german ones, which I used to fly, had it beside the door. On pictures of the commando version I found them there too.
The position below makes it easier for HIFR, but the german MK41 did that method too.

skadi

The HAS1 and to my knowledge the Australian Mk50, the original Pakistani and the original Egyptian Sea Kings all had pressure refuel point under the sliding cabin door (stbd side) and the three gravity refuel points on the port side

They're the ones that I flew, anyway.

[Northernstar]

Tech points aside those airframes were as cheap as first believed along with spares to start and UK gov has paid now as much as publicly suggested would indicate a lack of due diligence.

[common toad]

I think Fleetlands still has dozens of SKs in storage.

[minigundiplomat]

Originally Posted by Sir Korsky

Yup, you got that right.

i’m sure a south coast MP with a name like an 80’s Bond villain is in the background.

[NutLoose]

Originally Posted by Northernstar

Tech points aside those airframes were as cheap as first believed along with spares to start and UK gov has paid now as much as publicly suggested would indicate a lack of due diligence.

That’s par for the course, they did the same with the Jags, sold them off then realised they needed a runner to use as a ground instructional frame, so had to buy one back making a tidy profit for the seller.

[chopper2004]

First glimpses of the SK in Ukriane colors

https://theaviationist.com/2023/01/2...27kgHWgstPWL3w





cheers

[Rigga]

I’m sure the Boscombe Down Sea King was a US built SH-3 The Westland Sea King was hugely different from the S61 - I remember the SAR boys in FI trying to nick a S61 tail rotor and all went fine till they found the S61 had six blades.

[Rigga]

Originally Posted by common toad

I think Fleetlands still has dozens of SKs in storage.

I believe all MOD Frames and stock was bought by HeliOps?

[EESDL]

Originally Posted by minigundiplomat

i’m sure a south coast MP with a name like an 80’s Bond villain is in the background.

was his power station converted to biomass?

[ericferret]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

That’s par for the course, they did the same with the Jags, sold them off then realised they needed a runner to use as a ground instructional frame, so had to buy one back making a tidy profit for the seller.

Same with the Canberra's, flogged all the spares off for scrap prices, then had a change of plan. Cost a fortune to buy them back.
When it comes to incompetance the MOD is in a league of it's own.

[sycamore]

Rigga,RAF Mk3 S-Ks had 6 t/r blades....

[treadigraph]

Originally Posted by Rigga

I’m sure the Boscombe Down Sea King was a US built SH-3 The Westland Sea King was hugely different from the S61 - I remember the SAR boys in FI trying to nick a S61 tail rotor and all went fine till they found the S61 had six blades.

Yes, XV370 was an SH-3, apparently Sikorsky built the first four UK airframes, the first was completed and had T-58s fitted by Sikorsky, the other three were completed by Westland with Gnomes.

[Rigga]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Rigga,RAF Mk3 S-Ks had 6 t/r blades....

Yes - I realised afterwards that I got it the wrong way around! Only 5 TR blades on the 61.

[sycamore]

Rigga, don`t know if one would fit anyway-only Part numbers would tell you,and they`d be WHL made..

[EESDL]

FOI request returned with the 'National Security Interest' caveat for not disclosing price paid etc. What a load of bo77ocks - it's all over the press - instigated by MOD themselves! Another 'boys club' venture backed / greased by previous slave driving connections?

[Bravo73]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65242823

“A military helicopter donated to Ukraine by the UK government was used in the Falklands conflict more than 40 years ago, the BBC has learned. Despite its age, the Ukrainian military says the aircraft will help in the war against Russia.”