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Old 30th Jun 2022, 12:03
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Ha ha ha....I love it Northernstar.

I read the report? HOLY CRAP. What a professional organisation? When will onshore VIP be brought into the 21st century regarding procedures /Crm/ Threat and error management, crews working together and standardised call etc? We've had the aircraft with a pop star on board who just missed the terrain, we've had the Haughey crash, and how many other nearly's have there been?

Can you take me to Battersea heliport please? Actually, on second thoughts, I'll take the car!!!!!

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Old 30th Jun 2022, 13:12
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Which just goes to illustrate the point that an average fixed wing pilot is terrified at the thought of having to operate in the way that the average helicopter pilot has to on a routine basis.
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Old 30th Jun 2022, 17:29
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and how many other nearly's have there been?
Here's five just off the top of my head:

https://assets.publishing.service.go...WIWI_11-12.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.go...014_G-CRST.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.go...N2NR_11-11.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.go...LBAL_10-15.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.go...BYPA_11-08.pdf
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Old 30th Jun 2022, 18:03
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Haven't re-read the report to refresh my memory yet but off the top of my head I seem to recall that N2NR wasn't commercial pressure so much as an unanswered mystery of why a highly experienced pilot flew IMC below MSA and ended up flying into the side of a hill. I fell like it's a bit of an odd one out of the ones mentioned
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Well, I think we all know there are more "close calls" on the onshore world that never get reported. Despite all these incidents the uk onshore world is full of crews "winging it" and poling around with an IR but have no real proper IMC experience of two-crew operations.
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Old 30th Jun 2022, 19:11
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Originally Posted by ApolloHeli
Haven't re-read the report to refresh my memory yet but off the top of my head I seem to recall that N2NR wasn't commercial pressure so much as an unanswered mystery of why a highly experienced pilot flew IMC below MSA and ended up flying into the side of a hill. I fell like it's a bit of an odd one out of the ones mentioned

I can only think that one was a proverbial “brain fart”.
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Good luck to Starspeed but I think they will have the same issues as Sloane - providing a guaranteed service is next to impossible with the vagaries of the weather down there.

If you can offer a quick alternative solution - I was offered and took the option outbound of a Jet boat that came across from Tresco - then at least your customers get there but that relies on a decent sea state.

Until there are instrument approaches at each end with sub-100' minima I think there will continue to be delays and cancellations leading to unhappy customers.

Back to luckyrat's tunnel methinks......
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 09:38
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Looks like Starspeed have gone for a 9 seat S-76 as their choice of chopper


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Old 11th Nov 2022, 16:16
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Originally Posted by Brexoff
Looks like Starspeed have gone for a 9 seat S-76 as their choice of chopper
I'd be surprised if they are operating it as 9 pax (8 in the cabin + 1 next to pilot) on a scheduled service unless they've found a way to move the duals! Recruitment post for engineers on Linkedin indicates a second S76 coming in early 2023, don't know if they plan to run two at the same time or if the 2nd is a maintenance back up.
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Brexoff
Looks like Starspeed have gone for a 9 seat S-76 as their choice of chopper
S76 rotors running with large volumes of lay public on a daily basis - what could possibly go wrong?
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 06:05
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Originally Posted by heli14
I'd be surprised if they are operating it as 9 pax (8 in the cabin + 1 next to pilot) on a scheduled service unless they've found a way to move the duals! Recruitment post for engineers on Linkedin indicates a second S76 coming in early 2023, don't know if they plan to run two at the same time or if the 2nd is a maintenance back up.
I'd suggest you need more than two if you are trying offer one all the time.
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 08:53
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Originally Posted by heli14
I'd be surprised if they are operating it as 9 pax (8 in the cabin + 1 next to pilot) on a scheduled service unless they've found a way to move the duals! Recruitment post for engineers on Linkedin indicates a second S76 coming in early 2023, don't know if they plan to run two at the same time or if the 2nd is a maintenance back up.
There are high density pax cabin configurations for the 76 that would allow 9 (or more) pax in the cabin plus two pilots.

Agree with 212 that rotors running turnarounds of the general public on an S-76 are a higher risk level than I'd be comfortable to accept.

It was bad enough with trained offshore pax that were supposed to know what they were doing.
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 16:30
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Agree with 212 that rotors running turnarounds of the general public on an S-76 are a higher risk level than I'd be comfortable to accept.

It was bad enough with trained offshore pax that were supposed to know what they were doing.
I remember one year (1992?) where one operator had two fatal accidents with deck crew members - one 76 and one 365.
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 17:19
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I can't see this being profitable, and using an S76? Cramped, very low disc etc
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 19:12
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Blimey an S76 , isn't that somewhat old technology ,luggage space will be minimal , and the cabin will no doubt be cozy
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 20:11
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Originally Posted by hargreaves99
I can't see this being profitable, and using an S76? Cramped, very low disc etc
Single pilot, already saving a fortune
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Old 12th Nov 2022, 21:30
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Single pilot IMC over water? With 8 pax?

I wouldn't want to be in the back.
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Old 14th Nov 2022, 17:15
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Was a B429 today, G-ODSA.
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Old 16th Nov 2022, 15:34
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S-76 G-PNZE recently registered, formerly 5N-BWJ

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S-76 G-PNZE recently registered, formerly 5N-BWJ

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