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Pilot jailed for forging entries in his licence and logbooks

Old 9th Apr 2022, 15:29
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Originally Posted by Sir Korsky
Generally I don't like to persist with these threads, but you aspire to be a helicopter pilot in the USA. Unless you are one of the few that find and retain that golden job for a whole career, you will be flying HAA to keep the lights on at some point. The standard schedule is a 12 hour day. The vendors, Medtrans, Metro etc, will try and pay you nothing with minimal benefits, probably $70k to start. The non-profits will start you out in 6 figures with experience with generous PTO time, the same that their nurses and medics get. Flying a helicopter can be fun, but believe me I'm ready to jump ship...literally sometimes.
Yes, I'm well aware that helicopter pilots often work 12-14 hour days. "Standand to other occupations" was referring to just that, other occupations. Here in the US we have a thing called the 9 to 5, 40 hour work week,...at least we used to.

Anyway, I'm not an aspiring pilot. I'm a pilot who has nowhere to rent anymore and thus must find a job flying if I ever want to go up again without a baby sitter. I hate this industry,...but trucking ain't much better.
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Old 9th Apr 2022, 15:44
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Robbiee,

I did two Seasonal Stints with UPS driving Triple Trailers between southern Oregon and Portland....lived two miles from the Hub....was home every "night", had Weekends off, and considered staying for permanent but did not care for the Union Mindset that prevailed there.

My friends who made a career there and retired have all done well financially, have excellent health benefits, and upon getting into the single digit Seniority numbers had their choice of runs....all worked daytime only and were home right along with their neighbors.

They all had at least Six Weeks of Vacation, paid Holidays (if UPS was running), and never missed Elk Hunting Season.

The real bonus is they never moved from their hometown in their career.

The Delivery side of UPS is well paid and since the Reformation (No more Ride-A-Long Monitors with Stop Watches) it is hard work but far less stressful.

In life you have to pick your poison....helicopter flying and truck driving are not for everyone.

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Old 9th Apr 2022, 16:25
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Originally Posted by SASless
Robbiee,

I did two Seasonal Stints with UPS driving Triple Trailers between southern Oregon and Portland....lived two miles from the Hub....was home every "night", had Weekends off, and considered staying for permanent but did not care for the Union Mindset that prevailed there.

My friends who made a career there and retired have all done well financially, have excellent health benefits, and upon getting into the single digit Seniority numbers had their choice of runs....all worked daytime only and were home right along with their neighbors.

They all had at least Six Weeks of Vacation, paid Holidays (if UPS was running), and never missed Elk Hunting Season.

The real bonus is they never moved from their hometown in their career.

The Delivery side of UPS is well paid and since the Reformation (No more Ride-A-Long Monitors with Stop Watches) it is hard work but far less stressful.

In life you have to pick your poison....helicopter flying and truck driving are not for everyone.
Yes, I know those local positions exist (I was in one at Fedex) but if you're home every night, its not OTR, and those Walmart positions they advertise state, "Home one day a week". So, they must be sleeping somewhere else for those other six days?

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Old 11th Apr 2022, 12:32
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Johni,

Would it not be prudent for NPAS to have reported this case to the CAA? If this Pilot was falsifying his Logbook in NPAS, then there is a high probability that he also did this in his previous employment/s as well?
Also by dealing with this in house, other employers will have no idea what this pilot has done! For flight safety sake, and other pilots who have grafted for years building hours the right way, can we not name this culprit?

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Old 11th Apr 2022, 15:02
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Originally Posted by Brutal
Johni,

Would it not be prudent for NPAS to have reported this case to the CAA? If this Pilot was falsifying his Logbook in NPAS, then there is a high probability that he also did this in his previous employment/s as well?
Also by dealing with this in house, other employers will have no idea what this pilot has done! For flight safety sake, and other pilots who have grafted for years building hours the right way, can we not name this culprit?

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Old 11th Apr 2022, 15:47
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Sorry 212 man, I am led to believe this is a very recent incident from last year or so?

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Old 11th Apr 2022, 15:51
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Originally Posted by Robbiee
To be frank, if I could make a living at it, I'd rather just drive the monorail at Disney World.
Then I’d suggest that’s what you aim for.

Having recently completed a 43 career in aviation, very little of this career path matches up to the over glamourised image often portrayed.

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Old 11th Apr 2022, 22:51
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Originally Posted by johni
Given a basic renewal in an AS355 (ie without any refresher training) is easily the best part of £2,000...that's a lot of money to find when you are a freelance pilot.

Plenty of motivation there for some logbook/licence fiddling

When you say ‘renewal’, do you mean an OPC/PC?

In the UK, this cost is covered by the helicopter operator. I can’t recall a freelance pilot being asked to cover that particular cost. Well, certainly not by any reputable operator.
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Old 12th Apr 2022, 16:55
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In the UK, this cost is covered by the helicopter operator. I can’t recall a freelance pilot being asked to cover that particular cost. Well, certainly not by any reputable operator.
That was my thought too. Operator normally covers full aircraft/training captain cost for LPC/OPC, freelancer doesn't charge for their time to do the check flight...

...that's how it used to work anyway!

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Old 12th Apr 2022, 18:09
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A U.K. HEMS operator who rely on freelance cover are known to demand roughly 3 days in return for an OPC, plus any line training days are unpaid. Part of the race to the bottom. Another who are supposedly multi crew and extend hours during summer expect freelancers to pay up to £2700 per hour in the charities own MD902 for a limited VFR p2 only type rating for an IFR operation. Seems though the caa are ok with that.
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Old 13th Apr 2022, 11:11
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And fire, dangerous, goods, CRM......
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Old 13th Apr 2022, 14:32
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Originally Posted by johni
3 days work for an OPC? That's about £1,350 you are paying the company.

The operator recently recruited for temporary summer pilots and had a lot of highly qualified/experienced applicants, so obviously pilots are happy to put up with this and there is no shortage of pilots.
3 days work at normal onshore freelance rates is £1650 for the weight category. I believe however the operation in question there are akin to what your estimate is.

When you say experienced applicants did any hold the type rating therefore less exposed? Or were all aware of the costs to pay to a hems charity in order to be a VFR copilot on a multi crew IFR operation?
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