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Old 17th Aug 2021, 01:06
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Its going to take a while to gain the hours and complete your ground school subjects, so just do it part time, maintain your job and see what happens or how you feel in a couple of years.
Pretty much what I'm doing right now in Canada. I work 7/7 so I've got plenty of time to chip away at the Commercial on my days off and enjoy doing so on the R44. My plan was to get into it full time, though I'm seriously thinking about just enjoying the flying on my days off when I finish my license. Saying that I do have a few contacts here in Canada flying all sorts of utility work so I'll see what happens.

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Old 17th Aug 2021, 01:30
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Originally Posted by helonorth
Maybe after you get some experience, you will change your mind.
21,500 hrs over 54 years on 4 continents is not enough "experience?

H500, B47/204/205/206/212/214ST, SK55P/55T/58P/58T/61/76 + fixed wing is not enough "experience"?

How much "experience" do you have?
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Old 17th Aug 2021, 01:54
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It really does seem like timing and who you know
And being in the right place at the right time. Very fortunate to have spent my time in offshore, home every night and not having to do tours. Daughter was on a dual trip when the instructor received a phone call from a mate of his who was looking for a pilot for his operation, instructor replied "I've got a person sitting with me right now", "but I don't have my CPL ride until next week" Daughter replied, instructor "he doesn't need to know that". And off she went to spend two weeks working the office after her CPL ride until arrival of the CPL license in her hand. Lad she was to later meet and marry on gaining his CPL flew into a town with a lot of GA activity by airline one night with just a couple of dollars in his pocket, next morning, having spent the night in a back packers, began walking the rounds at first light with suitcase in tow and had a job very early morning.

Networking is the key as well. Training with a small operator who has been in the business for some time and not one of the sausage factories can be advantageous as well, as in my Daughters case.

All the very best of wishes with it Shaun, whatever path you decide to take.
21,500 hrs over 54 years on 4 continents is not enough "experience
Ah, yes, but is that 21,500 hrs of experience, or one hour repeated 21,500 times. Mine was mostly the latter.
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Old 17th Aug 2021, 04:32
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Originally Posted by megan

Ah, yes, but is that 21,500 hrs of experience, or one hour repeated 21,500 times. Mine was mostly the latter.
R/W: IFR/night offshore, night slinging, Arctic summer/winter, long-lining, drill moves, logging (which I hated), mountain, firefighting, heli-skiing, steel-setting, game capture, general charter, CP.

F/W: bush/floats, IFR charter w/ King Air and others.

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Old 17th Aug 2021, 08:01
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oleary - calm down old chap, helonorth's comment was clearly tongue in cheek
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Old 17th Aug 2021, 14:47
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Originally Posted by Robbiee
I'm not that dedicated.
You should probably stop posting then.
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Originally Posted by helonorth
You should probably stop posting then.
I will if you will.
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Old 17th Aug 2021, 21:25
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😂 plus at least enough characters to post.
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Old 18th Aug 2021, 00:48
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Interested SLF here. I keep seeing things like
Straight after getting the commercial ticket and few months instructing.
and the thought occurs to me that a new CPL(H) might not make the best instructor as they have very little experience and are basically doing the job to get hours. Am I missing something? Personally, I would prefer an instructor who has actually done stuff....
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Old 18th Aug 2021, 01:29
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
Interested SLF here. I keep seeing things like and the thought occurs to me that a new CPL(H) might not make the best instructor as they have very little experience and are basically doing the job to get hours. Am I missing something? Personally, I would prefer an instructor who has actually done stuff....
Thats a completely seperate issue.
Previously, in Australia, 400 hrs were required before the issue of an instructor rating. One of the biggest advantages was that pilots with no interest in instruction could usually find something else by the time they had 400hrs. It also seemed to make instruction a more financially viable employment option. (Supply/demand) and less of an “hour building” pursuit.

CASA has “fixed” this now.
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Old 18th Aug 2021, 02:28
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
Interested SLF here. I keep seeing things like and the thought occurs to me that a new CPL(H) might not make the best instructor as they have very little experience and are basically doing the job to get hours. Am I missing something? Personally, I would prefer an instructor who has actually done stuff....
As a guy who got stuck with a fresh off the assembly line newbie halfway through my instrument training when my 4,000 hour instructor left for a better job, I can tell you,...

No, they don't make the best instructors,...but here in The States we don't value education, so that's the only first job you're gonna get.
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Old 18th Aug 2021, 07:02
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Winemaker - there are many of us who think that instructors should have at least 1500 hours before they start instructing, because, as you rightly imply, you can't teach what you don't know.

However....

I have flown with 200 hour pilots who I would trust with anything, and 27,000 hour pilots who I wouldn't trust with a pram. Similarly with instructors - we had an outstanding one here who just had a PPL (he was promoted extremely quickly on the N Sea). So there are two elements to consider - having the knowledge and the ability to convey it. The answer lies somewhere between the two, although I would probably add enthusiasm, and I can see the problem Authority has in establishing the dividing line. The Australian suggestion above is a good one.
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Old 18th Aug 2021, 17:05
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Originally Posted by Robbiee
my 4,000 hour instructor left for a better job.
Uh-huh...lol
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Old 18th Aug 2021, 18:59
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Originally Posted by helonorth
Uh-huh...lol
,........
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Old 18th Aug 2021, 20:17
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now this thread has reached rock bottom
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