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Old 21st Feb 2023, 10:49
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to put it in context, that's a force 12 wind vs blades that are on brakes. You are mixing EASA with ECMWF.
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Old 21st Feb 2023, 13:19
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You're Guillaume Faury and I claim my five pound (none of those euros - thanks)
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Old 21st Feb 2023, 16:49
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Originally Posted by Mee3
to put it in context, that's a force 12 wind vs blades that are on brakes. You are mixing EASA with ECMWF.
The H175 rotor brake is poor at the best of times - I understand no tie-downs were applied. Funny how the windspeed increases each day. Dramatic for blades to separate - no matter how windy.
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Old 21st Feb 2023, 17:18
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Originally Posted by JulieAndrews
The H175 rotor brake is poor at the best of times - I understand no tie-downs were applied. Funny how the windspeed increases each day. Dramatic for blades to separate - no matter how windy.
I think they got one on before the damage started. Not a straight forward set of circumstances
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Old 22nd Feb 2023, 08:05
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...quelle surprise,
surprise surprise....

NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global
Contenders for the UK’s New Medium Helicopter (NMH) requirement are due to meet with defence officials on 24 February 2023,
where they will likely be told of a further delay to the procurement process.

Aircraft suppliers Airbus Helicopters, Leonardo Helicopters and Sikorsky, alongside Boeing, which is pitching a support and training solution,
were last October selected for the next stage of the NMH acquisition and were awaiting the launch of an invitation to negotiate (ITN).



But recent ministerial statements have seen a softening of language, moving from a deadline of 31 March 2023 to simply “later this year”.

Commodore Jol Woodard,
ead of combat aviation programmes for the British Army, addressing delegates at Defence IQ’s International Military Helicopter conference in London on 21 February 2023,
declined to reveal the NMH programme’s latest timeline.

A “supplier session” will take place on 24 February 2023, he says, during which the latest programme schedule will be detailed.

But inter-departmental tensions amid wider government budget cutting appear to be slowing progress with NMH.

“We are working incredibly hard now to secure the necessary cross-government approvals
o allow us to launch the second stage of the competition as soon as possible,” says Woodard.

Airbus Helicopters is pitching the H175M for NMH, while Leonardo Helicopters is proposing the AW149. Both would be built in the UK if selected.
Sikorsky, meanwhile, is offering its S-70M Black Hawk, but has yet to detail its UK industrial plan.

Service entry had been expected in 2025 to match the out-of-service date of the Royal Air Force’s (RAF’s) Puma fleet
ut it is unclear if that goal can still be met under an increasingly compressed schedule.
NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global
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Old 22nd Feb 2023, 13:22
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as we all know by now - there is absolutely no reason why it should slip to the right and more - there is a solution available now that works for the exchequer, the troops and the workforce; but it's not made by Airbus or Leonardo, just some blinking annoying upstarts who appeared to have found a better way which exposes the waste and excess in current procurement system ;-)
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https://www.flightglobal.com/helicop...152194.article
Boeing has shifted its approach to the UK’s New Medium Helicopter (NMH) contest and is no longer pursuing the requirement as a prime contractor....

The US firm was one of four companies – alongside Airbus Helicopters, Leonardo Helicopters and Sikorsky –
picked last September to proceed to the next stage of the NMH acquisition,
having successfully passed the pre-qualification questionnaire (PQQ) step.



But unlike its rivals in the process,
Boeing was not proposing an airframe,
instead offering a services, training and support solution,
likely in the expectation that the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) would contract that requirement separately to the aircraft.

In changing tack, the manufacturer will essentially still be offering the same range of solutions as before but will be approaching the contract in a different manner.

“Boeing continues to follow the New Medium Helicopter procurement with interest
and explore how we can best support it, based on the MoD’s requirements and what technology we can offer.

“While we aren’t sharing specific details about our involvement at this time,
Boeing has supported the UK armed forces for decades
and employs hundreds of people across the country in helicopter sustainment, maintenance and training,” it says.

Bidders are due to meet with UK defence officials on 24 February 2023 to receive an update on the procurement timeline.

That is likely to lay out a delay to the acquisition process.
The three competitors were due to receive an invitation to negotiate by 31 March 2023
but this target now appears to have slipped as the programme office struggles to gain sign-off for the procurement.
https://www.flightglobal.com/helicop...152194.article
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Old 25th Feb 2023, 20:35
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Any further news - was there an update from MoD yesterday?
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That handle is fantastic! Baldeep... Bloody gold!
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That handle is fantastic! Baldeep... Bloody gold!
But the older I get, the less true it is. May have to change name by deed poll to Hugh Stubang-Kwif

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H175M Task Force

Looks like Boeing Defence UK have joined the H175M Task Force….

Airbus welcomes Boeing to H175M Task Force for UK New Medium Helicopter competition
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Looks like Boeing Defence UK have joined the H175M Task Force….

Airbus welcomes Boeing to H175M Task Force for UK New Medium Helicopter competition
ANOTHER flag on back to front, in fact two flags... Will they ever learn..
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
ANOTHER flag on back to front, in fact two flags... Will they ever learn..
It’s been highlighted before. Unfortunately it was put on by a French engineer.
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Old 6th Mar 2023, 19:01
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Very telling of the confidence Airbus have in their own training providers?
Supply chain disruption as Airbus France stop building aircraft due to industrial action - backlog of 70 completed wing sets at Broughton, Chester.
Plays nicely into Lyingnardos hands.....
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Very telling of the confidence Airbus have in their own training providers?
Supply chain disruption as Airbus France stop building aircraft due to industrial action - backlog of 70 completed wing sets at Broughton, Chester.
Plays nicely into Lyingnardos hands.....
Airbus aren’t in the business of providing large scale, long term training solutions. It’s not their core business, that’s manufacturing helicopters. The two Academies and all of the Customer Centres provide training to support aircraft sales and will support the initial instructor training for NMH, just like MFTS.


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Originally Posted by FloaterNorthWest
Airbus aren’t in the business of providing large scale, long term training solutions. It’s not their core business, that’s manufacturing helicopters. The two Academies and all of the Customer Centres provide training to support aircraft sales and will support the initial instructor training for NMH, just like MFTS.
What about the special NH90 training facility at Helisim? That was/is an ongoing, long-term training solution. That said, the Indra H175 sim at Helisim is woeful for a level 'D' so best to stay away ;-)
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Originally Posted by FloaterNorthWest
Airbus aren’t in the business of providing large scale, long term training solutions. It’s not their core business, that’s manufacturing helicopters. The two Academies and all of the Customer Centres provide training to support aircraft sales and will support the initial instructor training for NMH, just like MFTS.
Pretty sure the Dutch Airforce have had a permanent presence at Helisim, with their own offices, since 2003, for their 532s
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Originally Posted by FloaterNorthWest
Unfortunately it was put on by a French engineer.
So, was it due to ignorance or intention, eh? 🤔😂
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Originally Posted by EESDL
What about the special NH90 training facility at Helisim? That was/is an ongoing, long-term training solution. That said, the Indra H175 sim at Helisim is woeful for a level 'D' so best to stay away ;-)
A simulator at a joint venture between Airbus, Thales and DCI that is available for dry lease isn’t equivalent to what Boeing provide for Apache and Chinook training or what they provide for the Australian Military Training.

What is so woeful about the EASA approved Level D FFS?

Who was going to provide AceHawk’s training solution?

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Still awaiting the announcement of the Puma HC3 update and the decision being put off to 2040
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