'I'm in a helicopter here that costs £550 an hour, okay'...
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The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops
So what? No one has exclusive use of an airfield. Delays are part of the system, whether it is waiting for higher priority traffic, a student to work out where they are, emergencies or a junior controller making an error. If you can't keep your cool for something minor, what happens when a real problem occurs?
To answer your question, counting to 10 on a typical single will burn around 1 lbs of A1 or half a litre. Not worth losing your license over,
To answer your question, counting to 10 on a typical single will burn around 1 lbs of A1 or half a litre. Not worth losing your license over,
This is a truly awful statement that is unqualified and based on ignorance and a sense of self aggrandisement. I'm familiar with Joel's business and he is truly a remarkable chap who has hard won the privileges he now enjoys. I wouldn't be surprised if Joel has made similar clangers along his own career path. Punishing people with their livelihood because they didn't satisfy you on that day is not how society works - no wonder she's 'shaken up'.
Having read the original news item I was interested to read the opinions of the professionals here, so no axe to grind either way, but that comment about the ATC really stood out as a cheap shot.
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I have no knowledge of any of the people involved, but this story seems a great illustration of how - in the age of online 'journalism' 'and social media - what seems to be true almost always Trumps (intended) what is true. In this context, in this country, it's surely simply never a good idea to post an image of yourself in front of your helicopter holding a gun and a bottle of champagne. I say 'in this country' because I think the image would connote something quite different in the U.S.
There, you might expect: "There's a successful guy, enjoying the fruits of his success to the full! Good on ya, buddy!"
Here it's: "What a massive d*ckhead. If he ever steps out of line, I'm calling the authorities."
Compound this with allowing it to be known that you own an Aston Martin and a motorbike and having yourself recorded saying: "I'm in a helicopter here that costs £550 an hour, okay..." and your situation is pretty irredeemable, whatever the facts of the case and however much of a great guy you really are.
There, you might expect: "There's a successful guy, enjoying the fruits of his success to the full! Good on ya, buddy!"
Here it's: "What a massive d*ckhead. If he ever steps out of line, I'm calling the authorities."
Compound this with allowing it to be known that you own an Aston Martin and a motorbike and having yourself recorded saying: "I'm in a helicopter here that costs £550 an hour, okay..." and your situation is pretty irredeemable, whatever the facts of the case and however much of a great guy you really are.
There’s two sides to consider with this story guys.. it’s not all it seems
JTobias is a personal helicopter pilot friend of mine and anybody who knows him, knows how utterly professional he is in the air and (1)most pilots will never obtain the experience he already has. The articles do not portray the knowledgeable, skillful, generous and charitable man (2)we all know. His personal success is unrelated and nobody’s business but he is undisputably professional there too and any suggestion otherwise is ludicrous.
His silence is merely because of the regulatory procedure pending as I am sure you can appreciate, that is his main priority and concern.
The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller (3)which we’ve all had at one time or another, and by no means describes the professionalism he exhibits normally. He has had no problem whatsoever apologising and admitting what he did was out of character and wrong, but it happened. End of.
However, you should also understand that there was an unreported and significant run up to the ‘rant’ being sensationalised in the press, which inevitably lead to the nature of the call. There was absolutely no confliction with other aircraft either.. Blackpool isn’t exactly Gatwick!
The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops, and maybe the real world of ATC may be too stressful for her to cope with. (4)She should try a bird-strike in a helicopter!
(5)This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
JTobias is a personal helicopter pilot friend of mine and anybody who knows him, knows how utterly professional he is in the air and (1)most pilots will never obtain the experience he already has. The articles do not portray the knowledgeable, skillful, generous and charitable man (2)we all know. His personal success is unrelated and nobody’s business but he is undisputably professional there too and any suggestion otherwise is ludicrous.
His silence is merely because of the regulatory procedure pending as I am sure you can appreciate, that is his main priority and concern.
The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller (3)which we’ve all had at one time or another, and by no means describes the professionalism he exhibits normally. He has had no problem whatsoever apologising and admitting what he did was out of character and wrong, but it happened. End of.
However, you should also understand that there was an unreported and significant run up to the ‘rant’ being sensationalised in the press, which inevitably lead to the nature of the call. There was absolutely no confliction with other aircraft either.. Blackpool isn’t exactly Gatwick!
The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops, and maybe the real world of ATC may be too stressful for her to cope with. (4)She should try a bird-strike in a helicopter!
(5)This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
1. A bold statement on a Professional Helicopter pilot forum. Isn’t he a private pilot?
2. Most of us on this forum don’t know him
3. I can pretty much guarantee the vast majority on this forum don’t argue with ATC. Ive never once had reason to in over 25yrs of flying.
4. So tell us the bird strike in a helicopter story. I bet a lot of us here have had one. Some of us more than we like to remember, and we’re all still here to tell the tale.
5. If it was nothing more than a ‘ticking off’ then there wouldn’t be a fine and a loss of his hard earned pilots licence, albeit possibly only temporary.
I get the feeling that you may be more than just a ‘friend’ of JTobias. One minute you’re a friend, the next you write as if you’re a partner and have first hand knowledge of this occurrence.
Or maybe you’re JTobias pretending to be Helibabe1?
Anyway, lets hope the licence gets reinstated and he can continue to fly his helicopter. Have a great day.
I have no knowledge of any of the people involved, but this story seems a great illustration of how - in the age of online 'journalism' 'and social media - what seems to be true almost always Trumps (intended) what is true. In this context, in this country, it's surely simply never a good idea to post an image of yourself in front of your helicopter holding a gun and a bottle of champagne. I say 'in this country' because I think the image would connote something quite different in the U.S.
There, you might expect: "There's a successful guy, enjoying the fruits of his success to the full! Good on ya, buddy!"
Here it's: "What a massive d*ckhead. If he ever steps out of line, I'm calling the authorities."
Compound this with allowing it to be known that you own an Aston Martin and a motorbike and having yourself recorded saying: "I'm in a helicopter here that costs £550 an hour, okay..." and your situation is pretty irredeemable, whatever the facts of the case and however much of a great guy you really are.
There, you might expect: "There's a successful guy, enjoying the fruits of his success to the full! Good on ya, buddy!"
Here it's: "What a massive d*ckhead. If he ever steps out of line, I'm calling the authorities."
Compound this with allowing it to be known that you own an Aston Martin and a motorbike and having yourself recorded saying: "I'm in a helicopter here that costs £550 an hour, okay..." and your situation is pretty irredeemable, whatever the facts of the case and however much of a great guy you really are.
Very funny. The only thing you could have added was if he’d said “Do you know who I am?”
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The only thing you could have added was if he’d said “Do you know who I am?”
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The photo was stolen from his private account but merely showed a fun corporate event for pilots at a clay pigeon shoot, whereby he won the competition. Lots of pilots flew in that day and the champagne was a token gesture as he is pretty much tee-total and he certainly would never go hunting let alone shoot an animal!
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I’ve said I’m not commenting specifically on the recording as there is a regulatory procedure pending in the next few days.. precisely why JTobias isn’t commenting himself. He is FULLY aware of my comments and he knows I have first hand experience of the matter concerning him, as do the entire team of helicopter pilots who are fully supporting him online and in person of which I am part of in my own right as a heli pilot since 2009. The newspapers don’t show the 10 mins leading up to the comments made and he is not disputing what he did was wrong. The fine wasn’t for the radio call, it was for the infringement. The priority now is to get the license reinstated forthwith as his flying capability is without question exceptional.
I’ve said I’m not commenting specifically on the recording as there is a regulatory procedure pending in the next few days.. precisely why JTobias isn’t commenting himself. He is FULLY aware of my comments and he knows I have first hand experience of the matter concerning him, as do the entire team of helicopter pilots who are fully supporting him online and in person of which I am part of in my own right as a heli pilot since 2009. The newspapers don’t show the 10 mins leading up to the comments made and he is not disputing what he did was wrong. The fine wasn’t for the radio call, it was for the infringement. The priority now is to get the license reinstated forthwith as his flying capability is without question exceptional.
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what a ridiculous comment.. on that basis, nearly ALL photographs on social media including Facebook and Instagram are “Look at me” photos. And why can’t he post photos of a nice day out? Do you? I certainly do.
The photo was stolen from his private account but merely showed a fun corporate event for pilots at a clay pigeon shoot, whereby he won the competition. Lots of pilots flew in that day and the champagne was a token gesture as he is pretty much tee-total and he certainly would never go hunting let alone shoot an animal!
The photo was stolen from his private account but merely showed a fun corporate event for pilots at a clay pigeon shoot, whereby he won the competition. Lots of pilots flew in that day and the champagne was a token gesture as he is pretty much tee-total and he certainly would never go hunting let alone shoot an animal!
And if it was, doesn't say a lot for a cybersecurity specialist...
what a ridiculous comment.. on that basis, nearly ALL photographs on social media including Facebook and Instagram are “Look at me” photos. And why can’t he post photos of a nice day out? Do you? I certainly do.
The photo was stolen from his private account but merely showed a fun corporate event for pilots at a clay pigeon shoot, whereby he won the competition. Lots of pilots flew in that day and the champagne was a token gesture as he is pretty much tee-total and he certainly would never go hunting let alone shoot an animal!
The photo was stolen from his private account but merely showed a fun corporate event for pilots at a clay pigeon shoot, whereby he won the competition. Lots of pilots flew in that day and the champagne was a token gesture as he is pretty much tee-total and he certainly would never go hunting let alone shoot an animal!
Okay Helibabe so we don’t know about the previous 10 mins leading to the clash and as you say he agrees that he was out of order.
I agree that the CAA should be investigating this as knowingly infringing airspace is poor practice and professionalism.
Would you have done the same thing in the same circumstances prior to this fallout?
I agree that the CAA should be investigating this as knowingly infringing airspace is poor practice and professionalism.
Would you have done the same thing in the same circumstances prior to this fallout?