'I'm in a helicopter here that costs £550 an hour, okay'...
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There’s two sides to consider with this story guys.. it’s not all it seems
JTobias is a personal helicopter pilot friend of mine and anybody who knows him, knows how utterly professional he is in the air and most pilots will never obtain the experience he already has. The articles do not portray the knowledgeable, skillful, generous and charitable man we all know. His personal success is unrelated and nobody’s business but he is undisputably professional there too and any suggestion otherwise is ludicrous.
His silence is merely because of the regulatory procedure pending as I am sure you can appreciate, that is his main priority and concern.
The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller which we’ve all had at one time or another, and by no means describes the professionalism he exhibits normally. He has had no problem whatsoever apologising and admitting what he did was out of character and wrong, but it happened. End of.
However, you should also understand that there was an unreported and significant run up to the ‘rant’ being sensationalised in the press, which inevitably lead to the nature of the call. There was absolutely no confliction with other aircraft either.. Blackpool isn’t exactly Gatwick!
The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops, and maybe the real world of ATC may be too stressful for her to cope with. She should try a bird-strike in a helicopter!
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
JTobias is a personal helicopter pilot friend of mine and anybody who knows him, knows how utterly professional he is in the air and most pilots will never obtain the experience he already has. The articles do not portray the knowledgeable, skillful, generous and charitable man we all know. His personal success is unrelated and nobody’s business but he is undisputably professional there too and any suggestion otherwise is ludicrous.
His silence is merely because of the regulatory procedure pending as I am sure you can appreciate, that is his main priority and concern.
The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller which we’ve all had at one time or another, and by no means describes the professionalism he exhibits normally. He has had no problem whatsoever apologising and admitting what he did was out of character and wrong, but it happened. End of.
However, you should also understand that there was an unreported and significant run up to the ‘rant’ being sensationalised in the press, which inevitably lead to the nature of the call. There was absolutely no confliction with other aircraft either.. Blackpool isn’t exactly Gatwick!
The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops, and maybe the real world of ATC may be too stressful for her to cope with. She should try a bird-strike in a helicopter!
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
Many of us are professional pilots with someone else footing the bill. When it comes out of your own pocket you look at things differently. Was on an IFR checkride in a 206 and asked the pilot what speed he was going to fly the ILS, “why, Vne of course” he replied, “unless you want to pitch in for the rental”. All of us share JTobias sentiment to avoid unnecessary costs from oblivious ATC.
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It's a story of interest to this forum I thought, it popped up in my news feed.
Please cite where I've made 'suggestions the pilot may be inclined to fly under the influence'...
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There’s two sides to consider with this story guys.. it’s not all it seems
JTobias is a personal helicopter pilot friend of mine and anybody who knows him, knows how utterly professional he is in the air and most pilots will never obtain the experience he already has. The articles do not portray the knowledgeable, skillful, generous and charitable man we all know. His personal success is unrelated and nobody’s business but he is undisputably professional there too and any suggestion otherwise is ludicrous.
His silence is merely because of the regulatory procedure pending as I am sure you can appreciate, that is his main priority and concern.
The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller which we’ve all had at one time or another, and by no means describes the professionalism he exhibits normally. He has had no problem whatsoever apologising and admitting what he did was out of character and wrong, but it happened. End of.
However, you should also understand that there was an unreported and significant run up to the ‘rant’ being sensationalised in the press, which inevitably lead to the nature of the call. There was absolutely no confliction with other aircraft either.. Blackpool isn’t exactly Gatwick!
The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops, and maybe the real world of ATC may be too stressful for her to cope with. She should try a bird-strike in a helicopter!
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
JTobias is a personal helicopter pilot friend of mine and anybody who knows him, knows how utterly professional he is in the air and most pilots will never obtain the experience he already has. The articles do not portray the knowledgeable, skillful, generous and charitable man we all know. His personal success is unrelated and nobody’s business but he is undisputably professional there too and any suggestion otherwise is ludicrous.
His silence is merely because of the regulatory procedure pending as I am sure you can appreciate, that is his main priority and concern.
The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller which we’ve all had at one time or another, and by no means describes the professionalism he exhibits normally. He has had no problem whatsoever apologising and admitting what he did was out of character and wrong, but it happened. End of.
However, you should also understand that there was an unreported and significant run up to the ‘rant’ being sensationalised in the press, which inevitably lead to the nature of the call. There was absolutely no confliction with other aircraft either.. Blackpool isn’t exactly Gatwick!
The controller stated she was ‘shaken up’ which, if accurate, leads me to think that Blackpool is where her ATC career stops, and maybe the real world of ATC may be too stressful for her to cope with. She should try a bird-strike in a helicopter!
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
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Originally Posted by newaviator
From what I can vaguely remember ,- if I have my date or rough estimate correct as I had the airband radio on at work , the lady in ATC was working hard to assist a student pilot who was lost and disorientated and being shepherded back to Blackpool by another light aircraft from the north prior to entering the ATZ , workload was high , the student was under stress and a possibly a contributing factor . No need for anyone to rant on the radio at ATC. Shutdown and talk properly post event. To make a comment over the air about the helicopter operating cost is not required under the circumstances ....its an expensive form of transport - no need to be whining about it , sounds like a knee jerk comment at the time in the heat of the moment.
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(3) If the aerodrome has an air traffic control unit the commander must obtain the permission of that unit to enable the flight to be conducted safely within the aerodrome traffic zone.
The case covers what was a 15-20 sec agitated incident with a controller which we’ve all had at one time or another,
Helibabe 1,
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
If the infringement was that small and perhaps insignificant to you then surely it shouldn’t have been a big deal and big cost (£20) to go around it?
I have spent a fair bit of time in the air myself and experienced good, bad and maybe the ugly controllers but if I had spoken to a controller like that I would have to have a word with myself.
Helicopters don’t have a great name in this industry as it is and we don’t need bad press such as this.
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
If the infringement was that small and perhaps insignificant to you then surely it shouldn’t have been a big deal and big cost (£20) to go around it?
I have spent a fair bit of time in the air myself and experienced good, bad and maybe the ugly controllers but if I had spoken to a controller like that I would have to have a word with myself.
Helicopters don’t have a great name in this industry as it is and we don’t need bad press such as this.
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Have you heard the recording? I have. There was no loss of control, no swearing, no obscenities, raised voices etc. Give yourself a badge and dont believe everything you read
Helibabe,
can you answer my questions please? Surely your job is to answer my questions first before replying to somebody else. I am sitting here charging the client £600 p/h waiting for your response.
What’s your name, this really isn’t good enough.
can you answer my questions please? Surely your job is to answer my questions first before replying to somebody else. I am sitting here charging the client £600 p/h waiting for your response.
What’s your name, this really isn’t good enough.
So so how did you hear the recording?
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Helibabe 1,
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
If the infringement was that small and perhaps insignificant to you then surely it shouldn’t have been a big deal and big cost (£20) to go around it?
I have spent a fair bit of time in the air myself and experienced good, bad and maybe the ugly controllers but if I had spoken to a controller like that I would have to have a word with myself.
Helicopters don’t have a great name in this industry as it is and we don’t need bad press such as this.
This is nothing more than a ‘speeding ticket and a ticking off’ by a copper in the air.. and if you saw the size of the infringement in inches you’d be shocked! But that doesn’t sell papers…!
If the infringement was that small and perhaps insignificant to you then surely it shouldn’t have been a big deal and big cost (£20) to go around it?
I have spent a fair bit of time in the air myself and experienced good, bad and maybe the ugly controllers but if I had spoken to a controller like that I would have to have a word with myself.
Helicopters don’t have a great name in this industry as it is and we don’t need bad press such as this.
Really, there is no news here other than a slap on the wrists for stepping out of line - which is undisputed and fully admitted. There is however, another issue relating to the way the CAA has handled many minor infringements this year at local airfields, and in a lot of peoples opinion, it is unnecessary to take it to this extreme and a little heavy handed, but this is not my battle so I will just sow the seed and leave it here. Pretty sure JTobias will be back very soon.
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How have you heard the recording? The ‘tapes’ would have been impounded once the event had gone ‘official’ the controller wouldn’t have access to them, and only the investigation team would prior to the prosecution. The pilot pleaded guilty by letter so he didn’t attend any court to hear any evidence that may have been played there.
So so how did you hear the recording?
So so how did you hear the recording?
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My comment on the champagne and helicopter was meant as humor, not to imply he actually drank before flying.
Clearly it is a "Look at me!" photo intended to show off his hobbies and achievements.
Thread is starting to deviate into... [the] absurd.
Clearly it is a "Look at me!" photo intended to show off his hobbies and achievements.
