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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:29
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Any recommendations on where to do an IR in the U.K.?
and what in, 109/135/as355?
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:41
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Speak to Elly at Starspeed, she will get you sorted
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:49
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Leon at Helicopter Services White Waltham
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 18:13
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Babcock in an EC135 and their sim is a FTD level 2 if that makes any difference to you. They're based at Gloucestershire
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 19:21
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Helicopter Services White Waltham. Great team, instructors and facilities. Speak to Leon
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 19:38
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Vote here for Helicopter Services.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:34
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Castle Air at Staverton gets my vote.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:49
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Before thinking about doing the IR, find out how many of the previous students in the last year now actually have secure jobs and how much are those jobs paying.
Don't believe companies when they say there is a coming shortage.
They want a market saturated with unemployed pilots and could not care less about how you pay off your massive loans.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 22:01
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Also consider what aircraft youíll end up with an IR on. Heli Services use old 355ís and a 109C, not current types for someone chasing a job. Starspeed and Babcock use 135ís so you may get advanced to a hems p2 position if not offshore. Both these companies have high success rate in students getting employed after, sometimes within. Castle use modern AW109 and are the feeder school for Bristow. Go figure.

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Old 26th Nov 2019, 00:25
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Go with the H135 or AW109 , the old twin squirrels are well passed its use by date for IFR.....

Starspeed would be on the top of the list, but winning the NPAS training contract could be tricky to get a training spot.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 08:21
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Hedski please get your facts correct before making unfounded comments .
FYI we use AW109s including the SP and also EC135 P3
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 11:30
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More and more jobs are coming up , if you can afford to self fund your instrument rating then go for it.

You have to be in it , to win it.

But as previous posts mention , nothing is guaranteed
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I think you will find that Helicopter Services are a bit more up to date than you suggest, Hedski. There's not much wrong with old 355s either.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 20:57
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in my current job I fly old 355ís but I did my IR on the 135 at Bond, now Babcock, do yourself a favour donít do the IR on the 355.
I was very happy with the Type rating and IR course provided by Bond.

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Old 26th Nov 2019, 21:01
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Originally Posted by haihio View Post
in my current job I fly old 355ís but I did my IR on the 135 at Bond, now Babcock, do yourself a favour donít do the IR on the 355.
I was very happy with the Type rating and IR course provided by Bond.

can I ask why you say donít do it on a 355?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 23:05
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Originally Posted by heli87 View Post

can I ask why you say don’t do it on a 355?

Go and drive an old 1980 astra van

Then Hire a Tesla Car ...... H135

Seriously unless you have flown them both ...go with the 135 or a 109e

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Old 27th Nov 2019, 09:24
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At the time when I was choosing ATO provider I had never flown either and I was more interested in saving some money. the quotes I got from the major ATOís in the UK where similar the difference was that I would get less air time if I choose the 135 as more training can be done in the FTD.

Elly that was working there was also very good at her job, and the last time I was there for my renewal she had already quit and although the instructors are good it does make a difference when there is someone like her handling all the other things.


ersa has pretty much pointed out the main reason why not to do it in the 355.
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 09:55
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Originally Posted by haihio View Post
At the time when I was choosing ATO provider I had never flown either and I was more interested in saving some money. the quotes I got from the major ATOís in the UK where similar the difference was that I would get less air time if I choose the 135 as more training can be done in the FTD.

Elly that was working there was also very good at her job, and the last time I was there for my renewal she had already quit and although the instructors are good it does make a difference when there is someone like her handling all the other things.


ersa has pretty much pointed out the main reason why not to do it in the 355.
Hi haihio

It seems Elly is now at starspeed
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 20:57
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Originally Posted by heli87 View Post

Hi haihio

It seems Elly is now at starspeed

Hi there,

yes, you are right I was told that as well.

I had also considered Starspeed and thought they are also top notch.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 16:49
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It seems Elly is now at starspeed
She has been there for a while now (closing to two years).

Starspeed and Heliservices are to me the best at the moment they both have great and competent people.

Don't underestimate AS355 unless you are specifically targeting offshore then indeed IR in a glass cockpit would make more sense to me
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