R44 down Sherburn airfield
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Not sure why the mystery and lack of information on this incident.
normal person, a businessman, makes a stupid mistake and rolls the heli. Could have been avoided easily. was he not told to wind the throttle off when on the ground if you need to take hands off or just dont take your hands off at all. Surely it wouldn’t have rolled over if it was wound back to 50-60%? Common sense tells you not to leave the machine at 101% and start messing round. All round avoidable. police apparently caught up with him but he had managed to throw back 2 pints by then. have a picture but unable to post as not a regular poster on here.
disclaimer: rumours obviously but quite accurate I am told.
normal person, a businessman, makes a stupid mistake and rolls the heli. Could have been avoided easily. was he not told to wind the throttle off when on the ground if you need to take hands off or just dont take your hands off at all. Surely it wouldn’t have rolled over if it was wound back to 50-60%? Common sense tells you not to leave the machine at 101% and start messing round. All round avoidable. police apparently caught up with him but he had managed to throw back 2 pints by then. have a picture but unable to post as not a regular poster on here.
disclaimer: rumours obviously but quite accurate I am told.
Am I missing something, or is the implied occupant a different person to the registered owner?
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And if the reaction to a serious air accident is to leg it and neck a couple, should this student really be allowed to continue to PPL? It is not convincing evidence of 'the right stuff', after all.
Only reason I can come up with to leg it and down a couple is to hide the fact he/she had one/more before the flight?
That would also explain why the school let him go.
Not saying it's the case, just thinking out loud.
And indeed, should this person be allowed to continue his PPL(H), hasn't got the right airmanship in him/her.
That would also explain why the school let him go.
Not saying it's the case, just thinking out loud.
And indeed, should this person be allowed to continue his PPL(H), hasn't got the right airmanship in him/her.
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I think some of you guys need to read up on human factors and human responses.
Fight, flight, freeze. Surprise and Startle etc.
All humans react differently when shocked by an event. I’m appalled at some of the things said above regarding this incident.
Fight, flight, freeze. Surprise and Startle etc.
All humans react differently when shocked by an event. I’m appalled at some of the things said above regarding this incident.
The flight school failed in offering support with a nice cuppa and the pilot showed poor airmanship. These are facts.
And yes I have seen a few aircraft crashes (owners, students etc. all not mine) but never seen pilots leave the scene. This only happens with car crashes when the driver has something to hide...
Convince me I'm wrong and I happily apologize.
Last edited by Ovc000; 16th Oct 2019 at 20:06.
I wouldn't go that far with my service to hold a willy or in a female case, well let's not go there. I would keep an eye on the customer as he/she could also suffer internal bleeding or any other injuries. But hindsight is always easy and I don't know the setup of the school, so maybe he/she could escape........Having said that, If he used the toilet in the restaurant (I recently was at sherburn and even saw LLIZ), then he couldn't escape unnoticed. Still think someone should have kept an eye on him/her (without the special service).
Every incident/accident should indeed be a learning point, otherwise it's just another sad mistake anyone else will do again at some point.
Poor airmanship during training, you got a point there although he was on a solo flight so I assume at least 20 hours which should also come with at least 20-30 hours of briefings, starting every lesson with airmanship & TEM.
But I must admit that nobody ever told me NOT to run away if I would crash, guess it's..........common sense?
I'm not judging the accident itself (unless any stimulants where involved), accidents can happen. I think that everyone will agree that sometimes gravity wins. It's the aftermath that's questionable.
I'll wait until the report comes and see what happened, although the reports sadly are not always accurate :-( .
Stay safe.
Every incident/accident should indeed be a learning point, otherwise it's just another sad mistake anyone else will do again at some point.
Poor airmanship during training, you got a point there although he was on a solo flight so I assume at least 20 hours which should also come with at least 20-30 hours of briefings, starting every lesson with airmanship & TEM.
But I must admit that nobody ever told me NOT to run away if I would crash, guess it's..........common sense?
I'm not judging the accident itself (unless any stimulants where involved), accidents can happen. I think that everyone will agree that sometimes gravity wins. It's the aftermath that's questionable.
I'll wait until the report comes and see what happened, although the reports sadly are not always accurate :-( .
Stay safe.
I apologise unreservedly for using an unprofessional term. I let my own emotions get the better of me at the thought of someone flying whilst under the influence at some level sufficient to cover up with a couple of pints post crash.
i do not buy though that being a student is excuse enough to leave the scene. It shows a lack of wisdom / common sense that should be in any pilot even before they embark on learning to fly, let alone with sufficient training / experience to go solo. Bottom line, if his startle response is to run to the pub when trouble strikes or he is embarrassed, would you want to be his passenger?
i do not buy though that being a student is excuse enough to leave the scene. It shows a lack of wisdom / common sense that should be in any pilot even before they embark on learning to fly, let alone with sufficient training / experience to go solo. Bottom line, if his startle response is to run to the pub when trouble strikes or he is embarrassed, would you want to be his passenger?